Re: [PATCH] drm/ttm: pass buffer object for bind/unbind callback

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On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 11:54 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>
> As mentioned previously, and in the discussion with Ben, the page tables
> would not need to be rebuilt on each CS. They would be rebuilt only on the
> first CS following a move_notify that caused a page table invalidation.
>
> move_notify:
> if (is_incompatible(new_mem_type)) {
>  bo->page_tables_invalid = true;
>  invalidate_page_tables(bo);
> }
>
> command_submission:
> if (bo->page_tables_invalid) {
>   set_up_page_tables(bo);
>   bo->page_tables_invalid = false;
> }
>
>
> Why is it different from updating page table in move notify ? I don't
> see any bonus here, all the information we need are already available
> in move_notify.
>
>
>
> I've iterated the pros of this approach at least two times before, but for
> completeness let's do it again:
>
> 8<----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1) TTM doesn't need to care about the driver re-populating its GPU page
> tables.
> Since swapin is handled from the tt layer not the bo layer, this makes it a
> bit easier on us.
> 2) Transition to page-faulted GPU virtual maps is straightforward and
> consistent. A non-page-faulting driver sets up the maps at CS time, A
> pagefaulting driver can set them up directly from an irq handler without
> reserving, since the bo is properly fenced or pinned when the pagefault
> happens.
> 3) A non-page-faulting driver knows at CS time exactly which
> page-table-entries really do need populating, and can do this more
> efficiently.
>
> 8<-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> And some extra items like partially populated TTMs that were mentioned
> elsewhere.

If done in move_notify i don't see why 1 would be different or 2. I
agree that in some case 3 is true. Given when move notify is call the
ttm_tt is always fully populated at that point (only exception is in
destroy path but it's a special on its own). If driver populate in
move_notify is doesn't change anything from ttm pov.

> Memory types in TTM are completely orthogonal to allowed GPU usage. The GPU
> may access a bo if it's reserved, fenced or pinned, regardless of its
> placement.
>
> A TT memory type is a *single* GPU aperture that may be mapped from the
> aperture side by the CPU (AGP). It may also be used by a single unmappable
> aperture that wants to use TTM's range management and eviction (vmwgfx GMR).
> The driver can define more than one such memory type (psb), but a bo can
> only be placed in one of those at a time, so this approach is unsuitable for
> multiple apertures pointing to the same pages.
>
>
> radeon virtual memory have a special address space, the system address
> space, it's managed by ttm through a TTM_TT (exact same code as
> current one). All the other address space are not managed by ttm but
> we require a bo to be bound to ttm_tt to be use, thought we can relax
> that. That's the reason why i consider system placement as different.
>
>
>
> Yes for Radeon system memory may be different, and that's fine. But as also
> previously mentioned we're trying to design a generic interface here, in
> which we need to consider GPU- mappable system memory.
>
> I think the pros of this interface design compared to populating in bo_move
> are pretty well established, so can you please explain why you keep arguing
> against it? What is it that I have missed?
>
> /Thomas

It's just i absolutely see no diff in doing it in move_notify (point 1
and 2 doesn't change from my pov). I fail to see the pro that's all.

Cheers,
Jerome
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