Re: [PATCH libdrm] tests/util: Add support for meson module

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On 26 January 2017 at 15:49, Thierry Reding <treding@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 06:28:39PM +0000, Emil Velikov wrote:
>> On 20 January 2017 at 16:17, Thierry Reding <treding@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 02:13:00PM +0000, Emil Velikov wrote:
>> >> On 19 January 2017 at 09:19, Thierry Reding <treding@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 02:59:21PM +0100, Neil Armstrong wrote:
>> >> >> Add support for Amlogic Meson DRM driver merged for Linux 4.10.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >>  tests/util/kms.c | 1 +
>> >> >>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> >> >
>> >> > Applied, thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> Was going to say "NACK use Thierry's helpers" but you've beat me to it.
>> >> As a Tl;DR: we _really_ want to stop using drmOpen* for anything that's KMS.
>> >
>> > I think it's still useful to have this helper to iterate over all
>> > supported driver because it enables easy testing with just a simple
>> > modetest.
>> >
>> > That said, for (almost) as long as I remember I've been using the -M
>> > option to prevent modetest from iterating over the list, which can take
>> > fairly long if you've got DRM_DEBUG messages enabled.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're suggesting by "use
>> > Thierry's helpers". modetest and other tests use util_open() internally
>> > now. That in turn uses drmOpen(), though we're of course open to change
>> > that. Are you suggesting we somehow use drmDevice to locate existing
>> > devices?
>> >
>> Yes using drmDevice is what I had in mind. The only thing that was
>> stopping me from doing that is the lack of platform devices support.
>> With that in we can start purging _everything_ that uses drmOpen*.
>>
>> > We could implement some heuristic that finds the first device with a
>> > primary node, but what if we want to support the -M option? There is
>> > currently no way of getting the driver from drmDevice. Maybe that's
>> > something we should add anyway.
>> >
>> The -M (kernel module name as given by drmGetVersion) is another
>> interesting topic. Feel free to skip to the Tl;Dr below.
>>
>> If doing the ioctl implicitly via drmOpen or drmDevice wakes up the
>> device, keeping in mind that:
>>  - it can take some time, and
>>  - you don't always need the info
>>
>> A couple of elaborate workarounds include:
>>  - use only on demand - add DRM_DEVICE_GET_MODULE_NAME or alike to the
>> drmDevice2 API
>> Needs a big "this can be VERY slow" warning in the documentation/man
>> pages... first we need actual man pages for libdrm ;-)
>>  - deprecate the whole thing and use the compat strings - how do we
>> handle the PCI devices ?
>>  - use the kernel module name (foo.ko) - kind of making it an ABI, but
>> iirc we've already have users which depend on it
>> Neither PCI devices nor platform ones are consistent in their naming -
>> foo.ko vs the value returned by the IOCTL.
>>
>> We might be able to combine the latter two ... need to double-check.
>>
>> Tl;Dr: For the moment I'd leave it to the user to call drmGetVersion.
>
> Okay, sounds like a plan. The good thing is we can keep adding new
> module names to the util_open() helper
The key point is that you do _not_ need any list. Any new and existing
drivers should just work. If they don't then they're [highly likely]
broken and should be fixed ;-)

-Emil
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