Re: [PATCH 3/7] dm: add reserved_bio_based_ios module parameter

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On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 19:17 -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 12 2013 at  6:47pm -0400,
> > Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > We don't need this. bio-based i/o should be fine with a small mempool, 
> > > there is no need to make it tunable.
> > 
> > I'd like to get Frank's insight here.  He clearly had an interest in
> > tuning bio-based also.  While 16 shouldn't really hurt it could still be
> > artifically high.  I'm not opposed to exposing a sane default but
> > allowing other to experiemnt (in production workloads) with smaller
> > values that still enable forward progress should memory get exhausted.
> > 
> > Mike
> 
> I would do it this way: if Frank gets a measurable improvement in memory 
> consumption when the values is dropped from 16 to a lower number (4 or 
> maybe 1), then I would drop the value by default (don't make it tunable, 
> drop it for all users).
> 
> If there is no improvement when the value is lowered, I'd leave it as it 
> is, on 16.

I haven't had time to look at this lately, but I did see a small but
measurable reduction in memory consumption when I was dealing with this
before.  The real problem for us is the fact that we'll have tons of
these devices so even a small memory reduction means a lot when
multiplied by, say, a hundred devices across a thousand machines.  And
that's a _small_ number.

That said, I wouldn't want to see all Linux installs limited by our
specific case, which is why I would vote for a tunable rather than a
fixed, hardcoded value.
-- 
Frank Mayhar
310-460-4042

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