Dne 8.3.2011 21:58, Ric Wheeler napsal(a): > On 03/08/2011 03:54 PM, Andreas Dilger wrote: >> On 2011-03-08, at 10:04 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >>> After seeing some of the feedback and confusion that happened in the fedora >>> community after Josef suggestion that we default to btrfs in an upcoming >>> Fedora release, it became clear to me that many users are incredibly >>> unaware of the common features that we have across file systems today given >>> LVM/device mapper support. >>> >>> btrfs will make multi-volume/multi-disk operations common place and easy to >>> do, but there is no reason not to do most/all of this today with ext4, xfs, >>> etc on top of lvm. >>> >>> To make this trivial to do for users, I think that it would be really nice >>> to have a two-level wrappers for things like resize, add a volume, shrink, >>> etc. Similar to the way we have mount or fsck invoke file system specific >>> bits. >> I definitely think this makes sense. However, taking a quick look at fsadm, >> I don't think it is the right starting point for this work. It is essentially >> a single script that is special-casing each filesystem it is touching, which >> makes it a maintenance nightmare to add in support for different filesystems. >> >> A better structure is the mkfs.* and fsck.* tools that extend the basic >> mkfs/fsck functionality for each new filesystem. That allows new filesystems >> to be added without the requirement to modify the upstream fsadm script. > > I do like the two level scheme that mkfs.* and fsck.* use - same interface > largely regardless of the file system and the ability to customize the fs > specific command as needed. > >> >> Another tool similar to this that I've been trying to push upstream for some >> time is the "lvcheck" script, which is essentially a wrapper for online >> filesystem checking. It is currently structured as an extension to the LVM >> tools, since it depends on creating a snapshot of an LV and does a check on >> the snapshot. If the snapshot is clean the original filesystem is marked >> checked as well, which avoids the "slow ext* check on boot" problem, while >> still ensuring that periodic filesystem checks will catch latent errors. >> >> It wouldn't be unreasonable to have a new wrapper for online filesystem >> checking (e.g. ofsck) or just an extension to fsck that does this in a more >> "plug-in" manner like fsck.* does today. It would naturally progress into >> real online checking for filesystems that support this (e.g. btrfs, and I >> think XFS is going in this direction as well). >> >> Cheers, Andreas > > Online fsck would certainly be a win & would make a lot of users happy, > Can I ask for creating RH bugzillas for missing fsadm functionality. (Support for btrfs (Bug 643907) is already there thought other more prio task are currently resolved). Zdenek -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel