Re: Shell Scripts or Arbitrary Priority Callouts?

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On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 17:27 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 06:01:23AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > 
> > > John:
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > 
> > > I ended up writing a small C program to do the priority computation for me.
> > > 
> > > I have two sets of FC-AL shelves attached to two dual-channel Qlogic
> > > cards. That gives me two paths to each disk. I have about 56 spindles
> > > in the current configuration, and am tying them together with md
> > > software raid.
> > > 
> > > Now, even though each disk says it handles concurrent I/O on each
> > > port, my testing indicates that throughput suffers when using multibus
> > > by about 1/2 (from ~60 MB/sec sustained I/O with failover to 35 MB/sec
> > > when using multibus).
> > > 
> > > However, with failover, I am effectively using only one channel on
> > > each card. With my custom priority callout, I more or less match the
> > > disks with even numbers to the even numbered scsi channels with a
> > > higher priority. Same with the odd numbered disks and odd numbered
> > > channels. The odds are 2ndary on even and vice versa. It seems to work
> > > rather well, and appears to spread the load nicely.
> > > 
> > > Thanks again for your help!
> > > 
> > I'm really glad you brought up the performance problem. I had posted
> > about it a few days ago but it seems to have gotten lost.  We are really
> > struggling with performance issues when attempting to combine multiple
> > paths (in the case of multipath to one big target) or targets (in the
> > case of software RAID0 across several targets) rather than using, in
> > effect, JBODs.  In our case, we are using iSCSI.
> > 
> > Like you, we found that using multibus caused almost a linear drop in
> > performance.  Round robin across two paths was half as much as aggregate
> > throughput to two separate disks, four paths, one fourth.
> > 
> > We also tried striping across the targets with software RAID0 combined
> > with failover multipath - roughly the same effect.
> > 
> > We really don't want to be forced to treated SAN attached disks as
> > JDOBs.  Has anyone cracked this problem of using them in either multibus
> > or RAID0 so we can present them as a single device to the OS and still
> > load balance multiple paths.  This is a HUGE problem for us so any help
> > is greatly appreciated.  Thanks- John
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Hmm.. just a guess, but could this be related to the fact that if your paths
> to the storage are different iSCSI sessions (open-iscsi _doesn't_ support
> multiple connections per session aka MC/s), then there is a separate SCSI
> command queue per path.. and if SCSI requests are split across those queues 
> they can get out-of-order and that causes performance drop?
> 
> See:
> http://www.nabble.com/round-robin-with-vmware-initiator-and-iscsi-target-td21958346.html
> 
> Especially the reply from Ross (CC). Maybe he has some comments :) 
> 
> -- Pasi
<snip>
I'm trying to spend a little time on this today and am really feeling my
ignorance on the way iSCSI works :(  It looks like linux-iscsi supports
MC/S but has not been in active development and will not even compile on
my 2.6.27 kernel.

To simplify matters, I did put each SAN interface on a separate network.
Thus, all the different sessions.  If I place them all on the same
network and use the iface parameters of open-iscsi, does that eliminate
the out-of-order problem and allow me to achieve the performance
scalability I'm seeking from dm-multipath in multibus mode? Thanks -
John
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