Re: Efficacy of xts over 1TB

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 02:25:32PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote:
> 
> On 07/25/2010 12:34 PM, Arno Wagner wrote:
> > This would be a reason to stay away from XTS, something may have
> > been subtly messed up.
> > 
> > As a side note, the XTS spec seems to be behind a IEEE paywall, which 
> > would be another reason not to use it, public standards need to be
> > accessible for free.
> 
> You should then suggest not use hardisks and storage technologies too
> because most of standards are not accesible for free:-)
> </joke>

The drafts are free ;-)
 
> Seriously, XTS-AES is FIPS140-2 approved and I see no problem to use it.

Well, I basically do not see the algorithm. Maybe searching for 15 
Minutes was not enough, but when something is hidden in Crypto,
I always become very suspicuous.

> Also read
> http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/BCM/documents/comments/XTS/follow-up_XTS_comments-Ball.pdf
> 
> Yes, final version is not available but draft specification is still there
> (this is IEEE business, not hiding algorithm definition IMHO).

Have a link to it?

Seriously, I suspect XTS is fine, but not finding the description
and detailed security analysis online bothers me more than a bit.

> Just please note one thing, which is dm-crypt special here:
> 
> default "plain IV" is 32 bit only, so if anyone uses it on >2TB partition
> some sectors shares IV (IV generator restarts, opening it to to watermarking
> and similar attacks).

That was the thing with dm-crypt, yes. 

> Please _always_ use plain64 (*aes-xts-plain64*) if you want use it for large
> devices. (plain64 produces the same IV for <2TB.
> Available since 2.6.33, Truecrypt 7 already does that, thanks:-)

Ok. Will put that in the FAQ in a few days.

Arno
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