On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:41:28PM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: > Arno Wagner <arno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 09:04:24PM +0100, Sarah Dean wrote: > >> There's no incentive to hand over your keys, since it won't achieve (or > >> stop) anything. > > True. But how does plausible deniability factor into > > your comment? If you are that hard, you can just use > > ordinary encryption and refuse to give the keys. > > That's wrong. With plausible deniability you (or your companions) don't > need to be so hard as you need to be without. Since with p.d. you can be > *sure* your torture will not stop just because you give them one more > key (because you cannot proof it was the last, it wouldn't be plausible > deniable then), giving them more doesn't give you a benefit. Without > p.d. it gives you a benefit to tell them more. Thus, without p.d. you > need to be harder not to tell your secrets: torture would be over then. Hmm. Difficult so say and better not to be in such a situation in the first place. I guess it will depend on the details of the situation. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno@xxxxxxxxxxx GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans If it's in the news, don't worry about it. The very definition of "news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier _______________________________________________ dm-crypt mailing list dm-crypt@xxxxxxxx http://www.saout.de/mailman/listinfo/dm-crypt