Re: Request for Comments: Pledge fund for multicore support

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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:11:06PM +0300, Sami Liedes wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:34:00AM +0200, Arno Wagner wrote:
> > I have about 45% CPU on a very low end AMD Sempron(tm) 
> > Processor LE-1250 for 30MB/s. You probably should have 
> > bought faster cores instead of more. 
> > 
> > Incidentially, I believe your request has about zero prospect
> > of being sucessful. It is a lot of effort for basically 
> > very few people having any gain. I would not do it unless fully
> > paid, but thet _wpuld_ be expensive. 
> 
> Hmm, ok, thanks for your point of view. Didn't realize it's that much
> work, although I do know that threads do have a very bad habit of
> complicating everything (after all I'm a developer myself, albeit with
> only rather limited experience of kernel hacking (and none for the
> last six years)). And I hadn't thought of the solution of raid on top
> of dm-crypt before :)
> 
> So perhaps it's just best to forget it. Or alternatively to start a
> project on micropledge and see how many want to pay (no, I'm not
> overly optimistic, but you never know) and if there will be any
> takers. From what you said, I gather the developer would need to have
> quite an amount of familiarity with dm-crypt to have any real chance
> of success? I do realize that would limit the number of interested
> developers quite dramatically.

Actually I expect, this might need a major filesystem layer rewrite,
Maybe even a major kernel rewrite.
 
> Still, I'd like one more opinion from you: If you think it shouldn't
> be done from a dm-crypt developer point of view because it makes the

Noooo, I am not a dm-crypt developer ;-)
The most I have contribuited so far is a tony bit of informal
security review quite some time ago.

> code a mess for little gain, I'll give a lot of weight to that opinion
> and just forget the idea, because I realize you are the dm-crypt
> expert here and I genuinely believe you know better what's good for
> dm-crypt (and since from a more pragmatic POV I guess that would
> reduce the chance of patches being merged). The raid-on-crypt idea
> probably solves most of the problem anyway, I really need to try that.

Can't believe I did not think of that. With a bit of luck,
you will effectively get one CPU per disk.

> Thanks for this discussion, and I'm sorry for already having taken
> more of your time than I probably should have if this has close to
> zero chances of success :-)

Hey, no problem. 

Arno
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