On 2015-08-26 08:39, Boris Brezillon wrote: > Hi Bill, > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:26:36 -0400 > Bill Pringlemeir <bpringle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 25 Aug 2015, computersforpeace@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> > Sorry, I realized a potential issue here. >> >> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 11:27:28AM +0200, Stefan Agner wrote: >> >> Signed-off-by: Bill Pringlemeir <bpringlemeir@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> Acked-by: Shawn Guo <shawnguo@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Reviewed-by: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> Signed-off-by: Stefan Agner <stefan@xxxxxxxx> >> >> --- >> >> .../devicetree/bindings/mtd/vf610-nfc.txt | 45 ++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+) create mode 100644 >> >> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/vf610-nfc.txt >> >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/vf610-nfc.txt >> >> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/vf610-nfc.txt >> >> new file mode 100644 >> >> index 0000000..cae5f25 >> >> --- /dev/null >> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/vf610-nfc.txt >> >>>> -0,0 +1,45 @@ >> >> +- nand-bus-width: see nand.txt >> >> +- nand-ecc-mode: see nand.txt >> >> +- nand-on-flash-bbt: see nand.txt >> >> > Stumbling across the "multi-CS" questions on the driver reminds me: it >> > typically makes sense to define new NAND bindings using separate NAND >> > *controller* and *flash* device nodes. The above 3 properties, at >> > least, would apply on a per-flash basis, not per-controller >> > typically. See sunxi-nand, for instance: >> >> > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/sunxi-nand.txt >> >> > brcmnand had a similar pattern: >> >> > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/brcm,brcmnand.txt >> >> > (Perhaps it's time we standardized this a little more formally...) >> >> These would apply per chip, but the controller has to be configured to >> support each and every one. Every time an operation was performed, we >> would have to check the chip type and reconfigure the controller. >> Currently, the driver does not support this and it would add a lot of >> overhead in some cases unless a register cache was used. >> >> Is the flexibility of using a system with combined 8/16bit devices >> really worth all the overhead? Isn't it sort of brain dead hardware not >> to make all of the chips similar? Why would everyone have to pay for >> such a crazy setup? >> >> To separate it would at least be a lie versus the code in the current >> form. As well, there are only a few SOC which support multiple chip >> selects. The 'multi-CS' register bits of this controller varies between >> PowerPC, 68K/Coldfire and ARM platforms. The DT can be a lie versus the code. The DT should reflect how the hardware is wired, afaik, if we take shortcuts in the driver code, that is fine. If we don't support a certain configuration right now (e.g. second NAND chip), the driver can just return an appropriate error code. >> >> I looked briefly at the brcmnand.c and it seems that it is not >> supporting different ECC per chip even though the nodes are broken out >> this way. In fact, if some raw functions are called, I think it will >> put it in ECC mode even if it wasn't before? Well, I agree that this >> would be good generically, I think it puts a lot of effort in the >> drivers for not so much payoff? > > Hm, the sunxi driver supports it, and it does not add such a big > overhead... > The only thing you have to do is cache a bunch of register values > per-chip and restore/apply them when the chip is selected > (in your ->select_chip() implementation). > > Anyway, even if the suggested DT representation is a lie in regards to > your implementation, it's actually pretty accurate from an hardware > POV, and this is exactly what DT is supposed to represent. I agree with both of you. I don't see much value implementing multi-NAND chip support, especially with different configurations, at the moment. I am not aware of any hardware making use of that now. I will update the driver to parse a NAND sub node and get the ECC properties from the per flash configuration. However, I won't add chip select or multi-NAND support right now... Any objection? -- Stefan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html