Hi Mike, I encountered some trouble while I tried to implement code fitting to DTS that you proposed. SIM_CLKDIVx are SIM device registers, not MCG. Therefore, in MCG device code I won't be able to figure out clock rate for outputed clocks unles I try to access SIM registers from MCG driver - that's what we wanted to avoid. Looks like it's the mcgoutclk that we want to expose not core, bus and the others: soc { mcg: clock-controller@40064000 { compatible = "fsl,kinetis-mcg"; clock-cells = <0>; reg = <0x40064000 0x14>; clocks = <&osc0>, <&osc1>, <&rtc>; clock-names = "osc0", "osc1", "rtc"; }; sim: clock-controller@40047000 { compatible = "fsl,kinetis-sim"; clock-cells = <1>; reg = <0x40047000 0x1100>; clocks = <&mcg>, <&osc0>; clock-names = "mcgoutclk", "enet"; }; uart0: serial@4006a000 { compatible = "fsl,kinetis-lpuart"; reg = <0x4006a000 0x1000>; interrupts = <45>, <46>; interrupt-names = "uart-stat", "uart-err"; clocks = <&sim SIM_SCGC4_UART0_CLK>; clock-names = "ipg"; dmas = <&edma 0 2>; dma-names = "rx"; status = "disabled"; }; }; Now fsl,kinetis-sim device will be responsible for clock gating and it will know about core, bus, flexbus and flash clocks only internally - none of them are exposed. Also note that fec (ethernet device) driver is connected directly to osc0 (though clock gate, you can see this CG attached to osc0 on the diagram too) - to control this gate I need to access SIM device registers, so it should be covered by the same fsl,kinetis-sim driver. On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Michael Turquette wrote: > Quoting Paul Osmialowski (2015-07-28 13:30:17) > > Hi Mike, > > > > My trouble is that now I'm dealing with two conradictory opinions on how > > this driver should be written. The one you presented in your previous post > > assumes that there will be a header file with defines shared between the > > clock driver and DTS, also with clock gating details hidden behind some > > additional level of indirection, e.g.: > > > > clocks = <&sim SIM_SCGC4_UART1_CLK>; > > > > Note that I've been through this at the very beginning, though the names > > I used have been bit different, e.g.: > > > > #define KINETIS_CG_UART1 KINETIS_MKCG(3, 11) /* SIM_SCGC4[11] */ > > > > This was rejected with a comment by Arnd: > > > > Instead of using a triple indirection here, just put the tuples > > in the DT directly using #clock-cells=<2>, and get rid of both this > > header file and the dt-bindings/clock/kinetis-mcg.h file. > > Arnd, are you OK with my type of binding description now that I > explained it with some examples? > > > > > So I dropped all of these includes and started to use magic numbers (as > > you put it). Now I need to go one way or another or even go the third way: > > extend #clock-cells to <3> and address it like: <&sim parent_clock_id > > scgc_register_number bit_index_number>. > > Paul, > > >From my understanding the DT folks do not like register-level or > bit-level details going into DT. It is better to handle the clock > signals as abstract resources and link a provider and consumer with a > simple phandle plus an index representing that abstract resource (i.e. > the clock output signal). > > > > > Reading your previous post I'm starting to feel that it would bring me > > closer to final acceptance if I stick to what you proposed in that post > > (I'm really grateful to you for writting so huge chunk of DTS for me!), so > > I'll probably adopt that. > > > > You're right about my "get things up and running" attitude - currently I > > want to develop things extensively (cover as much subsystems as > > possible) and then at some stage switch to intensive approach. This board > > is a somewhat huge monster (for a Cortex-M4 SoC) and there will be a lot > > of coding opportunity in this field in the future. > > I'm happy to take clock drivers and add my Reviewed-by to .dts files > that make use of fixed-rate and fixed-factor clocks as an interim > solution. Of course it will be best to get The Real Thing merged > upstream asap, but this is something I've done before to help get new > platform upstream before and I'm fine to do it again. > > With that said, Devicetree bindings are allegedly a stable ABI that > cannot be broken. So let's make sure that any Kinetis clock binding > description is in good shape before merging it. The rest can follow on > later if it needs to. > > Regards, > Mike > > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Michael Turquette wrote: > > > > > Quoting Paul Osmialowski (2015-07-26 13:24:08) > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > > Thank you for spending time on this and pointing me into the right > > > > direction. I'm wondering about going even further with it. Assuming that I > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > No problem! And thanks for the quick turnaround on your patches so far. > > > > > > > know everything about my board, I can skip run-time discovery phase (note > > > > that the original driver was designed for other Kinetis-based boards too) > > > > and move everything into DTS, somewhat like this: > > > > > > > > / { > > > > osc0: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clock-frequency = <50000000>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > osc1: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clock-frequency = <12000000>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > rtc: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clock-frequency = <32768>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > mcgout: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-factor-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clocks = <&osc0>; > > > > clock-mult = <12>; > > > > clock-div = <5>; > > > > }; > > > > > > I think this is a step backwards. > > > > > > Did you look at the qcom clock binding and read the email where I > > > detailed how that binding works? > > > > > > The point of that type of binding is to not shove per-clock data into > > > DT, but instead to declare every clock controller IP block (e.g. the > > > device) as well as every board-level clock (e.g. as osc that feeds into > > > your mcu). Once these "clock providers" are enumerated in DT, then we > > > create linkage between the clock providers and the clock consumers by > > > using phandles + an index. Linux device drivers tap into this by using > > > clk_get() and using the "clock-names" property from DT. > > > > > > Put another way: we mostly use DT to model "devices". That is open to > > > interpretation for but for clock-related stuff we typically interpret > > > the clock controller as the device, not the individual clock outputs > > > coming out of the controller. > > > > > > Note that a clock controller IP block may be both a provider and a > > > consumer. I/O controllers are a very common type of consumer (e.g. USB > > > host controller, MMC controller, GPU, etc). > > > > > > Additionally, from my reading of the reference manual, mcgout is defined > > > as: > > > > > > """ > > > MCG output of either IRC, MCGFLLCLK MCGPLL0CLK, > > > MCGPLL1CLK, or MCG's external reference clock that > > > sources the core, system, bus, FlexBus, and flash clock. It is > > > also an option for the debug trace clock. > > > """ > > > > > > So why is it listed here as a fixed-factor clock? Is it not a > > > multiplexer? Also, why is it listed here at all? Please take another > > > look at the qcom binding example I linked to in my previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > core: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-factor-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clocks = <&mcgout>; > > > > clock-mult = <1>; > > > > clock-div = <1>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > bus: clock { > > > > compatible = "fixed-factor-clock"; > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > clocks = <&mcgout>; > > > > clock-mult = <1>; > > > > clock-div = <2>; > > > > > > These are actually not fixed dividers but programmable dividers. You can > > > probably use drivers/clk/clk-divider.c for these. I'm fine with using > > > fixed-dividers for the initial merge just to get things up and running > > > if that is your strategy, but you'll need to revisit them later on when > > > you need more flexible support for other boards. > > > > > > Again, I'm not sure why these clocks are enumerated in DT. Why not just > > > enumerate your mcg clock controller and your sim clock controller? If > > > you want to be a perfectionist then it appears that there is an osc > > > clock controller upstream from the mcg controller as well ;-) > > > > > > It occurs to me that maybe you are trying to use fixed-factor clocks so > > > that you can program a sane default rate? We use the > > > assigned-clock-rates property for that. Note that this value is a > > > property of some device which *consumes* the clock, not the clock > > > controller or the clock output itself. > > > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > soc { > > > > cmu@0x40047000 { > > > > compatible = "fsl,kinetis-gate-clock"; > > > > reg = <0x40047000 0x1100>; > > > > > > > > mcg_core_gate: clock-gate { > > > > clocks = <&core>; > > > > #clock-cells = <2>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > mcg_bus_gate: clock-gate { > > > > clocks = <&bus>; > > > > #clock-cells = <2>; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > osc0_erclk_gate: clock-gate { > > > > clocks = <&osc0>; > > > > #clock-cells = <2>; > > > > }; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > uart0: serial@4006a000 { > > > > compatible = "fsl,kinetis-lpuart"; > > > > reg = <0x4006a000 0x1000>; > > > > interrupts = <45>, <46>; > > > > interrupt-names = "uart-stat", "uart-err"; > > > > clocks = <&mcg_core_gate 3 10>; > > > > > > Magic numbers are not good. dtc has been able to use preprocessor macros > > > for a while now which means we can use constants instead of magic > > > numbers. Please look at the shared header in the qcom binding for an > > > example. > > > > > > > clock-names = "ipg"; > > > > dmas = <&edma 0 2>; > > > > dma-names = "rx"; > > > > status = "disabled"; > > > > }; > > > > }; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > As you can see, mcg part is not required anymore. > > > > > > I think the mcg should be required. The mcg is a real IP block on your > > > SoC, according to my reading of your technical reference manual. Just > > > because you can model a few of its output clocks in dts does not mean > > > that you should. > > > > > > I did a quick grep and didn't find "cmu" anywhere in the reference > > > manual. > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that the approach above would require split into soc-specific and > > > > board-specific part (as I said, dividers arrangement is something board > > > > specific), but I wonder what you thing about this proposal. > > > > > > Splitting is good. Chip-specific stuff can go into the chip-specific > > > dtsi file. The board-level (osc) stuff can go into the individual board > > > files. The ultimate goal is to make it trivial to add new boards. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Michael Turquette wrote: > > > > > > > > > Quoting Paul Osmialowski (2015-07-04 14:50:03) > > > > > > Hi Arnd, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm attaching excerpt from Kinetis reference manual that may make > > > > > > situation clearer. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > > > Can you please post the patch in the body of the email instead of an > > > > > attachment? It makes it easier to review. Another small nitpick is that > > > > > the $SUBJECT for this patch might be better off as something like: > > > > > > > > > > clk: mcg and sim clock drivers for twr-k70f120m Kinetis SoC > > > > > > > > > > At least it helps me find the patch I care about when skimming the > > > > > series ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These MCG and SIM registers are used only to determine configuration > > > > > > (clock fixed rates and clock signal origins) at run time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Namely, the real MCGOUTCLK source (in the middle) which is the parent for > > > > > > core clock (CCLK) and peripheral clock (PCLK) is determined at run time by > > > > > > reading MCG registers, let me quote commit message from Emcraft git repo: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Determine in run-time what oscillator module (OSC0 or OSC1) is used > > > > > > as clock source for the main PLL. > > > > > > > > > > According to [0] there are three options: a 32k RTC osc clock and osc0 > > > > > both feed into a mux. You should model this 32k clock with the > > > > > fixed-rate binding. > > > > > > > > > > > * When OSC1 is selected, assume its frequency to be 12 MHz on all > > > > > > boards (there is a 12 MHz oscillator on XTAL1/EXTAL1 on K70-SOM and > > > > > > TWR-K70F120M boards). > > > > > > > > > > > > In my .dts I'm trying to possibly follow real clock hierarchy, but to go > > > > > > anywhere behind MCGOUTCLK would require ability to rewrite .dtb e.g. by > > > > > > U-boot. But that's too demanding for any potential users of this BSP. So > > > > > > let's asume that MCGOUTCLK is the root clock and a parent for CCLK and > > > > > > PCLK. > > > > > > > > > > I'm confused. The point of device tree is to solve problems like this; > > > > > i.e. board-specific differences such as different oscillator > > > > > frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > OSC0 and OSC1 should each be a fixed-rate clock in your board-specific > > > > > TWR-K70F120M DTS (not a chip-specific file). They do not belong in the > > > > > cmu node, and they should use the "fixed-clock" binding. The 32k RTC osc > > > > > can probably go in your chip-specific .dtsi as a fixed-rate clock since > > > > > it appears to mandated in the reference manual[0]. > > > > > > > > > > These three fixed-rate clocks are your root clock nodes. Customers only > > > > > need to worry about this if they spin a board, and then they will need > > > > > to populate the frequencies of OSC0 and OSC1 in their board-specific > > > > > .dts. > > > > > > > > > > Please break clk-kinetis.c into two files: > > > > > drivers/clk/kinetis/clk-mcg.c > > > > > drivers/clk/kinetis/clk-sim.c > > > > > > > > > > Below is what your binding/dts should look like: > > > > > > > > > > { > > > > > osc0: clock { > > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > > clock-frequency = <50000000>; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > osc1: clock { > > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > > clock-frequency = <12000000>; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > rtc: clock { > > > > > compatible = "fixed-clock"; > > > > > #clock-cells = <0>; > > > > > clock-frequency = <32768>; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > soc: soc { > > > > > mcg: clock-controller@40064000 { > > > > > compatible = "fsl,kinetis-mcg"; > > > > > clock-cells = <1>; > > > > > reg = <0x40064000 0x14>; > > > > > clocks = <&osc0>, <&osc1>, <&rtc>; > > > > > clock-names = "osc0", "osc1", "rtc"; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > sim: clock-controller@40047000 { > > > > > compatible = "fsl,kinetis-sim"; > > > > > clock-cells = <1>; > > > > > reg = <0x40047000 0x1100>; > > > > > clocks = <&mcg MCG_MCGOUTCLK_DIV1>, <&mcg MCG_MCGOUTCLK_DIV2>, <&mcg MCG_MCGOUTCLK_DIV3> <&mcg MCG_MCGOUTCLK_DIV4>; > > > > > clock-names = "core", "bus", "flexbus", "flash"; > > > > > }; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > uart0: serial@4006a000 { > > > > > compatible = "fsl,kinetis-lpuart"; > > > > > reg = <0x4006a000 0x1000>; > > > > > clocks = <&sim SIM_SCGC4_UART1_CLK>; > > > > > clock-names = "gate"; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > I removed the interrupts and dma stuff from the uart0 node for clarity. > > > > > The above is the only style of binding that I have been accepting for > > > > > some time; first declare the clock controller and establish its register > > > > > space, and then consumers can consume clocks by providing the phandle to > > > > > the controller plus an offset corresponding to a unique clock. The > > > > > clock-names property makes it really easy to use with the clkdev stuff > > > > > (e.g. clk_get()). > > > > > > > > > > I've covered this before on the mailing list so here is a link > > > > > describing how the qcom bindings do it in detail: > > > > > > > > > > http://lkml.kernel.org/r/<20150416192014.19585.9663@quantum> > > > > > > > > > > Technically you could encode the same bits as sub-nodes of the mcg and > > > > > sim nodes, but the shared header is how the magic happens with the > > > > > driver so it's best to keep the clock controller binding small and > > > > > light. > > > > > > > > > > I think this means you can also get rid of kinetis_of_clk_get_name and > > > > > kinetis_clk_gate_get but my brain is tired so I'll leave that as an > > > > > exercise to the reader. > > > > > > > > > > [0] http://cache.freescale.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/K70P256M150SF3RM.pdf > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my most recent version I added OSC0ERCLK explicitly as one more root > > > > > > clock, since it is also used directly (through CG reg. 1 bit 0) by > > > > > > Freescale fec network device whose in-tree driver I'm trying to make > > > > > > usable for Kinetis. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday 03 July 2015 00:08:27 Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > > > > >> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Paul Osmialowski wrote: > > > > > > >>> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> I wonder if you could move out the fixed rate clocks into their own > > > > > > >>>> nodes. Are they actually controlled by the same block? If they are > > > > > > >>>> just fixed, you can use the normal binding for fixed rate clocks > > > > > > >>>> and only describe the clocks that are related to the driver. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> In my view having these clocks grouped together looks more convincing. After > > > > > > >>> all, they all share the same I/O regs in order to read configuration. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The fact that they share a register is not making them a group. That's > > > > > > >> just a HW design decision and you need to deal with that by protecting > > > > > > >> the register access, but not by trying to group them artificially at > > > > > > >> the functional level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd disagree with that: The clock controller is the device that owns the > > > > > > > registers and that should be one node in DT, as Paul's first version does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The part I'm still struggling with is understanding how the fixed-rate > > > > > > > clocks are controlled through those registers. If they are indeed configured > > > > > > > through the registers, the name is probably wrong and should be changed > > > > > > > to whatever kind of non-fixed clock this is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > linux-arm-kernel mailing list > > > > > > linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > > > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html