Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: rockchip: rk356x: add ethernet aliases

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On 2024-07-02 17:14, Philipp Puschmann wrote:
Am 02.07.24 um 16:41 schrieb Dragan Simic:
On 2024-07-02 16:25, Philipp Puschmann wrote:
On 2024-07-02 14:46, Philipp Puschmann wrote:
Providing ethernet aliases solves a subtle problem for the rk3568. The bus_id used for the sysfs directory name of the mdio. Without ethernet alias the bus_id is always 0 and so creating the sysfs directory for the second mdio fails with a duplicate filename error and by this the setup
of the second ethernet port fails too.

Note: The alias numbering is inverted as gmac1 comes from more generic
rk356x.dtsi but gmac0 comes from specialised rk3568.

Please see the following commits and the discussions on the rockchip-linux
mailing list that are linked in them:

- b0140a1b3b1d ("arm64: dts: rockchip: Add ethernet0 alias to the dts
  for RK3588(S) boards")
- 36d9b3ae708e ("arm64: dts: rockchip: Add ethernet0 alias to the dts
  for RK3566 boards")
- 5d90cb1edcf7 ("arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove ethernet0 alias from the
  SoC dtsi for RK3399")
- c900fef5deff ("arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove ethernet0 alias from the
  SoC dtsi for RK3368")
To sum it up, ethernetX aliases are considered board-level features,
because not all boards/devices actually expose the Ethernet interfaces
built into the SoCs.  Thus, adding ethernetX aliases to the SoC dtsi
files, unfortunately, isn't an acceptable option.

Are ethernet aliases are handled differently than i2c, serial and spi aliases? There are aliases for each of them, without doing any harm. And even if the gmac
nodes are disabled with status property?

In a word, yes; they are handled a bit differently, which I already tried to sum up.  As Krzysztof already noted, please read the discussions linked
in the patches listed above.

On my rk3568-based custom board i had no ethernet aliases and networking was enabled normally with the status properties of the gmac nodes. Either one or the other or both network devices were initialized. Would be strange if an
alias would be used without regard to initializing a device driver.

It's also about following the TRMs and the aliases (or common names) defined
in them, as described in the above-mentioned discussions.

Ok. I understand the point why the ethernet alias belongs to the board
dts instead of the SoC dtis.
But on the quick i found no reference in Documentation/ or in drivers/net or the
mentioned
that and why ethernet aliases aren't optional (and it appears in many cases they are). From my years of board bring-up my understanding of aliases was, that they are in general are optional and for some subsystems they are used to hard-code sysfs paths and device names in /dev to solve the problem of randomness in
initialization order.

Sure, ethernetX aliases are optional. Basically, if a board exposes none of the Ethernet interfaces built into the SoC, there should be no ethernetX aliases
and, of course, no GMACs enabled in the board dts file.

The sysfs issue that you've discovered should be instead solved in some
other, more systemic way.

The bus_id value comes from stmmac_platform.c and of_alias_get_id() with "ethernet" as parameter is used, what is a common way in the kernel. It delivers unique ints starting with 0. stmmac_mdio then uses the bus_id to
create a mdio bus id string stmmac-${bus_id} to register a mdio_bus.
From my understanding this kind of bus id is commonly used to name devices
and paths in the sysfs. Viewed only this problem it would be possible
to use other information like the node address or some unique
information to use it as unique part of the mdio bus id. But doesn't break
things too, at least some kind of convention?

Another hack i tried first, was to use a static increasing int to get
the bus_id. This would keep the resulting sysfs tree probably unchanged
but would drop the connection between dts and bus numbering in sysfs.

Wouldn't those issues be solved by simply defining the needed ethernetX
aliases in the dts file for your board?

Yes. But for me it wasn't obviously that and why i would need that aliases to make a mdio work that is not even mentioned in the dts file (in my case). So in a perfect would would like to have a solution that comes without some
hidden magic or the need to dig through the code.

Frankly, I'm not sure that defining aliases is some hidden magic, :) but
I think that I understand your point. Thus, I'd still suggest that you try to improve the code in the areas you found troublesome, making it more robust
in a systemic way.




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