On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:58 PM Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 12:37:54PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 4:07 PM Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Top posting to bring Saravana Kannan into this discussion. > > > > > > This looks like a big hack to me, Saravana has been working > > > tirelessly to make the device tree probe order "sort itself out" > > > and I am pretty sure this issue needs to be fixed at the DT > > > core level and not in a driver. > > > > We could merge all the IO domain stuff into the pinctrl node/driver, > > like is done for Allwinner? Maybe that would simplify things a bit? > > I thought about this as well. On Rockchip the pinctrl driver and the IO > domain driver even work on the same register space, so putting these > into a single node/driver would even feel more natural than what we have > now. Then we should try to do this and fix any issues blocking us. > However, with that the pinctrl node would get the supplies that the IO > domain node now has and we would never get into the probe of the pinctrl > driver due to the circular dependencies. >From a fw_devlink perspective, the circular dependency shouldn't be a problem. It's smart enough to recognize all cycle possibilities (since 6.3) and not enforce ordering between nodes in a cycle. So, this is really only a matter of pinctrl not trying to do regulator_get() in its probe function. You need to do the regulator_get() when the pins that depend on the io-domain are requested. And if the regulator isn't ready yet, return -EPROBE_DEFER? Is there something that prevents us from doing that? > > > > IIRC on Allwinner SoCs the PMIC pins don't have a separate power rail, > > or if they do they almost certainly use the default I/O rail that is > > always on, and so we omit it to work around the dependency cycle. > > I looked into sun50i as an example. This one has two pinctrl nodes, pio > and r_pio. Only the former has supplies whereas the latter, where the > PMIC is connected to, has (found in sun50i-a64-pinephone.dtsi): > > &r_pio { > /* > * FIXME: We can't add that supply for now since it would > * create a circular dependency between pinctrl, the regulator > * and the RSB Bus. > * > * vcc-pl-supply = <®_aldo2>; > */ > }; > > At least it show me that I am not the first one who has this problem ;) > > We could add the supplies to the pingroup subnodes of the pinctrl driver > to avoid that, but as Saravana already menioned, that would feel like > overkill. So my comment yesterday was that it'd be an overkill to make every struct pin_desc into a device. But if you can split that rockchip pinctrl into two devices, that should be okay and definitely not an overkill. Maybe something like: pinctrl { compatible = "rockchip,rk3568-pinctrl"; i2c0 { /omit-if-no-ref/ i2c0_xfer: i2c0-xfer { rockchip,pins = /* i2c0_scl */ <0 RK_PB1 1 &pcfg_pull_none_smt>, /* i2c0_sda */ <0 RK_PB2 1 &pcfg_pull_none_smt>; }; } ... ... pinctrl-io { compatible = "rockchip,rk3568-pinctrl-io"; pmuio1-supply = <&vcc3v3_pmu>; cam { .... } .... .... } So pinctrl will probe successfully and add it's child device pinctrl-io. i2c0 will probe once pinctrl is available. Then eventually the regulator will probe. And after all that, pinctrl-io would probe. This has no cycles and IMHO represents the hardware accurately. You have a pinctrl block and there's a sub component of it (pinctrl-io) that works differently and has additional dependencies. Any thoughts on this? -Saravana