On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 12:12:52PM +0000, Alvin Šipraga wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 12:43:51PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Why would we have a property for this and not just describe whatever the > > > actual clocking arrangement is? > > > Sure - let me just elaborate on my thinking and maybe you can help me with a > > better approach: > > > The clocking arrangement is encoded in the dai_fmt field of snd_soc_dai_link, > > but this is a single value that describes the format on both ends. The current > > behaviour of ASoC is to flip the clock roles encoded in dai_fmt when applying it > > to the CPU side of the link. > > > Looking from a DT perspective, if I do not specify e.g. bitclock-master on > > either side of the link, then the dai_fmt will describe the codec as a bitclock > > consumer and (after flipping) the CPU as a provider. That's the default > > implication of the DT bindings and I can't break compatibility there. > > None of this addresses my question. To repeat why would we not just > describe the actual clocking arrangement here - this property does not > specify where the clock actually comes from at all, we're still going to > need additional information for that and if we've described that clock > then we already know it's there without having to specify any more > properties. Yes I see what you mean. On my platform the clock source is actually described by the common clock framework, so I would want to use that. If it were a component driver then it would most likely be a codec that is part of the dai-link anyway. So what about having two struct clk pointers in struct snd_soc_dai? struct snd_soc_dai { /* ... */ struct clk *bitclock_provider; struct clk *frameclock_provider; /* ... */ }; If non-NULL I could then have the ASoC core enable/disable the clocks on demand? I would say in hw_params/hw_free, albeit that runs after set_fmt. Having said that, I see ASoC doesn't really use the CCF much... am I way off? I don't think it's feasible to modify every component driver to explicitly handle this and then ignore any CBP_CFP bits set in its call to set_fmt - this is why I want help from the ASoC core. > > > The other issue is that for the simple-card the DAI format is only parsed in one > > place and applied to the whole link. Are you proposing that it be modified to > > explicitly try and parse both ends in order to determine if both sides want to > > be clock consumers? In that case I'd have to also introduce bitclock-consumer > > and frameclock-consumer properties to mirror the existing bitclock-master and > > frameclock-master properties, as an explicit absence of the *-master property on > > both sides would have to default to the original ASoC behaviour described above. > > If simple-card can't be made to work that's fine, it's deprecated > anyway. Ah OK, I didn't know that. Right now I'm using graph-card2, that's not deprecated, right? Kind regards, Alvin