Hi Dmitry, On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 3:00 PM Dmitry Rokosov <ddrokosov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [...] > > This IP block has at least one additional input called "sys_pll_div16". > > My understanding is that the "sys_pll_div16" clock is generated by the > > CPU clock controller. Support for the CPU clock controller > > (dt-bindings and a driver) will be added at a later time by Dmitry. > > How can we manage incrementally implementing the clock controllers? > > From a hardware perspective the "sys_pll_div16" input is mandatory. > > How to manage this in the .dts patches then (for example: does this > > mean that Dmitry can only add the clock controller to the .dts when > > all clock controller bindings have been implemented - or is there > > another way)? > > You're absolutely right: currently, not all inputs are supported because > the CPU clock controller isn't ready yet – I'm working on it at the > moment. > > I understand your concerns about bindings and schema description, but > there is an issue to be considered. I'm developing the entire clock > controller A1 subsystem incrementally in three stages: peripherals and > PLL, CPU, and Audio. This is because the CPU can operate at a static > frequency and voltage, and the board boots normally without the CPU > clock controller, thermal sensor, and OPP table. Audio is also > important, but it's optional. On the other hand, without setting up the > peripherals and PLL controllers, the board won't function because > they're fundamental. I understand your approach and I like it (without that incremental approach you would probably be looking at a series with 15-20 patches). Maybe the dt-binding maintainers have a suggestion for us here? Let me try to summarize the issue in a few bullet points: - There's (at least) four clock controllers on the Amlogic A1 SoC - Some of these clock controllers take the outputs of another clock controller as inputs - In this series patch the peripheral clock controller has an input called "sys_pll_div16" - The clock controller which provides the "sys_pll_div16" clock is not implemented yet (my understanding is that implementing it and adding it to this series is not easy: it would add even more patches that need to be reviewed and in general it's a tricky clock controller to implement as it manages the CPU clocks) > Right now, we're in the first stage of the plan. Unfortunately, I can't > disclose the exact names and number of clock bindings for the CPU and > Audio, as they're still in development and only exist in my head or > draft versions. > > If possible, I'd prefer to provide the new bindings and connections once > all the appropriate drivers are finalized. Question to Conor and Krzysztof (assuming you read my summary above): Is it fine that Dmitry adds additional inputs to the peripheral clock controller binding in later patches? If not: how can we proceed in case we need to add them now (the dt-binding example is the easy part for me as we can just make up a phandle like &sys_pll_div16_clk and use that - but this can't work when Dmitry tries to add the clock controller to meson-a1.dtsi) PS: Dmitry is trying to get this series into Linux 6.5. As far as I remember the common clock maintainers don't take pull requests with new features after -rc6 (which is in less than two weeks). So time is getting a bit short and for me this is the very last outstanding question. If you say that it's fine to add clocks later on this will immediately get my Reviewed-by. Best regards, Martin