Re: [PATCH 0/6] arm64: errata: Disable FWB on parts with non-ARM interconnects

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On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2023 18:15:15 +0100,
> Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 05:51:22PM +0100, James Morse wrote:
> > > When stage1 translation is disabled, the SCTRL_E1.I bit controls the
> > > attributes used for instruction fetch, one of the options results in a
> > > non-cacheable access. A whole host of CPUs missed the FWB override
> > > in this case, meaning a KVM guest could fetch stale/junk data instead of
> > > instructions.
> > > 
> > > The workaround is to disable FWB, and do the required cache maintenance
> > > instead.
> > 
> > I think the workaround can be to only do the required cache maintenance
> > without disabling FWB. Having FWB on doesn't bring any performance
> > benefits if we do the cache maintenance anyway but keeping it around may
> > be useful for other reasons (e.g. KVM device pass-through using
> > cacheable mappings, though not something KVM supports currently).
> 
> But you'd also rely on the guest doing its own cache maintenance for
> instructions it writes, right?

Ah, you are right. It looks like I only considered the host writing
instructions. If the guest disabled stage 1 and wrote some instructions
with FWB on, they'd not necessarily reach the PoC while the instructions
are fetched from PoC with this bug. Even with SCTLR_EL1.I==0, the guest
is supposed to do an IC IVAU if it wrote instructions but that's not
sufficient (hint to the micro-architects, add a chicken bit to upgrade
IC IVAU to also do a DC CVAC ;))

> Which probably means exposing a different CLIDR_EL1 so that
> LoC/LoUU/LoUIS are consistent with *not* having FWB... I also wonder
> if keeping FWB set has the potential to change the semantics of the
> CMOs (the spec seems silent on that front).

Not sure about CMOs, I'd expect them to behave in the same way. However,
I don't see how faking CLIDR_EL1 can trick the guest into doing DC CVAC
when its MMU is off.

> > That said, maybe we can reduce the risk further by doing the
> > vcpu_has_run_once() trick with !FWB and clean the D side to PoC on a
> > stage 2 exec fault (together with the I-cache invalidation). We can then
> > ignore any other cache maintenance on S2 faults until someone shouts (we
> > can maybe recommend forcing FWB off on the command line through the
> > cpuid override).
> 
> You lost me here with your vcpu_has_run_once().

Most likely I lost myself in the code. So the tricks we used in the past
tracking the guest MMU off/on was only for the D side. If (we hope that)
the guest only wrote instructions to a page once before executing them
(and never writing instructions again), we could trap a subsequent exec
fault and do the D-cache clean to PoC again.

> Keeping the CMOs on exec fault is definitely manageable. But is that
> enough?

Yeah, not sure it's enough if the guest keeps writing instructions to
the same page with the MMU off.

-- 
Catalin



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