On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: > This is a rebase of the later revisions of [1], but refactored > slightly to add a DT method as well. It has all the same advantages of > the ACPI method (putting HW quirks in the firmware rather than the > kernel) but now applied to a 'pci-host-smc-generic' compatible > property which extends the pci-host-generic logic to handle cases > where the PCI Config region isn't ECAM compliant. With this in place, > and firmware managed clock/phy/etc its possible to run the generic > driver on hardware that isn't what one would consider standards > compliant PCI root ports. I still think that hiding the code in firmware because the hardware is broken is absolutely the wrong way to tackle this problem and I thought the general idea from last time was that we were going to teach Linux about the broken hardware instead [1]. I'd rather have the junk where we can see it, reason about it and modify it. What's changed? In my mind, the main thing that's happened since we last discussed this is that Apple shipped arm64 client hardware with working ECAM. *Apple* for goodness sake: a company with basically no incentive to follow standards for their vertically integrated devices! Perhaps others need to raise their game instead of wasting everybody's time on firmware hacks; getting the hardware right obviously isn't as difficult as folks would lead us to believe. Will [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210325131231.GA18590@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx