On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 10:24:27PM +0530, Prasanna Vengateshan wrote: > Thanks Vladimir & Andrew for the right pointers and info. The thread talks about > "rgmii-*" are going to be applied by the PHY only as per the doc. For fixed- > link, MAC needs to add the delay. This fixed-link can be No-PHY or MAC-MAC or > MAC to in-accessible PHY. In such case, i am not convinced in using rgmii-tx- > delay-ps & rgmii-rx-delay-ps on the MAC side and apply delay. I still think > proposed code in earlier mail thread should still be okay. Why? I genuinely do not understand your reasoning - I read a thread that brings some arguments for which MACs should not add delays based on the delay type in the "rgmii-*" phy-mode string [ but based on explicit rgmii-tx-delay-ps and rgmii-rx-delay-ps properties under the MAC OF node; this is written in the same message as the quote that you chose ] - I acknowledge that in certain configurations I need the MAC to apply internal delays. => I disagree that I should parse the rgmii-tx-delay-ps and rgmii-rx-delay-ps OF properties of the MAC, just apply RGMII delays based on the "rgmii-*" phy-mode string value, when I am a DSA CPU port and in no other circumstance ?! I mean, feel free to feel convinced or not, but you have not actually brought any argument to the table here, or I'm not seeing it. Anyway, I don't believe that whatever you decide to do with the RGMII delays is likely to be a decisive factor in whether the patches are accepted or not, considering the fact that traditionally, everyone did what suited their board best and that's about it; I will stop pushing back. I have a theory that all the RGMII setups driven by the Linux PHY library cannot all work at the same time, with the same code base. Someone will sooner or later come and change a driver to make it do what they need, which will break what the original author intended, which will then be again patched, which will again break ..., which .... If a perpetual motion device will ever be built by mankind, I am sure it will be powered by RGMII delays.