On 09/11/2020 18:15:30+0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > Userspace should never have to > > > > handle gpios directly or you are doing something wrong. > > > > > > This is true, but check how error codes are propagated to the user space. > > > > > > > your point is to remove an error message because the error may be > > propagated to userspace. My point is that userspace should never use > > gpios and the kernel has to be the consumer. > > Tell this to plenty of users of old sysfs interface and to libgpiod ones. Exactly, that is what I'm telling to them. > If what you are saying had been true, we would have never had the new > ABI for GPIOs. > > > I don't see how your answer > > is relevant here. > > I have an opposite opinion. > > > Did you already check all the call sites from the > > kernel too? > > If you think we have to print a message on each possible error case > (but not always the one) we will get lost in the messages disaster and > dmesg overflow. > It is consumer who should decide if the setting is critical or not to > be printed to user. > This is the valid reason and as you can see, it has nothing to do with userspace. -- Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering https://bootlin.com