Hi, Some early revisions of SoCs may have hardware bugs that need to be fixed up in DT. Currently we are handling this by including DTS files and fixing up nodes and properties, to create different DTB files for different SoC revisons (see arch/arm64/boot/dts/renesas/*es1*). As an alternative, I'm envisioning the use of DT overlays and the fdtoverlay tool, in the hope of simplifying the generation of DTBs for the various SoC/board combinations. Ideally, such DTBs would not contain symbols, to avoid inflating DTB size. Hence if fixup overlays would not contain symbolic references, there would be no need for symbols. For anchors, the "&{/path/to/node@address}" syntax is working fine. For phandles, while documented on https://elinux.org/Device_Tree_Mysteries, and while working fine for the non-overlay case, dtc seems to have issues interpreting the DTB: $ scripts/dtc/dtc -I dtb -O dts my.dtb | less <stdout>: ERROR (property_name_chars): /__fixups__:/path/to/node@deadbeef: Bad character '/' in property name ERROR: Input tree has errors, aborting (use -f to force output) With -f, the fixup generated seems to contain the expected value, though: __fixups__ { /path/to/node@deadbeef = "/fragment@0/__overlay__:power-domains:0"; }; When using ftdoverlay, the situation is worse: Failed to apply my.dtb (-1) Are these known issues? Thanks for your comments! Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds