Hi, On 11/12/2018 11:35 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > >>>> It's overcomplicating the naming again. In every case you can tweak >>>> the function name to eth0_link, eth1_link etc. >>> >>> Well, but in such case it would be good to keep existing scheme. >>> >>> My system looks like this: >>> >>> input16::capslock tpacpi::bay_active tpacpi::standby >>> input16::numlock tpacpi::dock_active tpacpi::thinklight >>> input16::scrolllock tpacpi::dock_batt tpacpi::thinkvantage >>> input5::capslock tpacpi::dock_status1 tpacpi::unknown_led >>> input5::numlock tpacpi::dock_status2 tpacpi::unknown_led2 >>> input5::scrolllock tpacpi:green:batt tpacpi::unknown_led3 >>> >>> I agree that we should get rid of "tpacpi:" part in some cases. But >>> it does not make sense to get rid of "input16:" part -- it tells you >>> if the LED is on USB or on built-in keyboard. >>> >>> Ideally, tpacpi::thinklight would be input5::frontlight (as it is >>> frontlight for the keyboard). >>> >>> Yes we should simplify, but it still needs to work in all cases. >> >> Well, label is not being removed. You still can use it an the old >> fashion, even when using new led_compose_name(). >> >> Maybe removing the description of the old LED naming from >> Documentation/leds/leds-class.txt was too drastic move. >> I'll keep it next to the new one, and only add a note that >> it is kept only for backwards compatibility. > > I agree that removing it is "just too drastic". > > But it is not just for backwards compatibility. See my examples above, > it is needed to tell which device the LED is asociated with, and it is > absolutely required for USB devices (for example). For USB devices there is already ledtrig-usbport available, which provides sysfs interface for defining and reading the usb ports, the status of which the LED indicates. Since the USB devices can be attached/removed dynamically, it would be impossible to reflect the associations in the LED class device name. > And even for "embedded" stuff like routers, we want eth0:green:link, > eth0:yellow:activity and not some kind of hack. eth0 is not something you can be certain of at the stage of defining DT node. > Ideally, colors would come from fixed list, functions would come from > fixed list, and device part would come from name used elsewhere in the > kernel. > > (And yes, it probably means we should have something in device tree to > link LED to its device. device = "name" would be good start...) Why would you need such link? -- Best regards, Jacek Anaszewski