Hi Boris, 2018-09-07 23:53 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 23:42:53 +0900 > Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Boris, >> >> 2018-09-07 23:08 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > Hi Masahiro, >> > >> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 19:56:23 +0900 >> > Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> NAND devices need additional data area (OOB) for error correction, >> >> but it is also used for Bad Block Marker (BBM). In many cases, the >> >> first byte in OOB is used for BBM, but the location actually depends >> >> on chip vendors. The NAND controller should preserve the precious >> >> BBM to keep track of bad blocks. >> >> >> >> In Denali IP, the SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES register is used to specify >> >> the number of bytes to skip from the start of OOB. The ECC engine >> >> will automatically skip the specified number of bytes when it gets >> >> access to OOB area. >> >> >> >> The same value for SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES should be used between >> >> firmware and the operating system if you intend to use the NAND >> >> device across the control hand-off. >> >> >> >> In fact, the current denali.c code expects firmware to have already >> >> set the SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES register, then reads the value out. >> >> >> >> If no firmware (or bootloader) has initialized the controller, the >> >> register value is zero, which is the default after power-on-reset. >> >> >> >> In other words, the Linux driver cannot initialize the controller >> >> by itself. You cannot support the reset control either because >> >> resetting the controller will get register values lost. >> >> >> >> This commit adds a way to specify it via DT. If the property >> >> "denali,oob-skip-bytes" exists, the value will be set to the register. >> > >> > Hm, do we really need to make this config customizable? I mean, either >> > you have a large-page NAND (page > 512 bytes) and the 2 first bytes >> > must be reserved for the BBM or you have a small-page NAND and the BBM >> > is at position 4 and 5. Are you sure people configure that differently? >> > Don't you always have SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES set to 6 or 2? >> >> >> As I said in the patch description, >> I need to use the same SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES value >> across firmware, boot-loader, Linux, and whatever. >> >> I want to set the value to 8 for my platform >> because the on-chip boot ROM expects 8. >> I cannot change it since the boot ROM is hard-wired. >> >> >> The boot ROM skips 8 bytes in OOB >> when it loads images from the on-board NAND device. >> >> So, when I update the image from U-Boot or Linux, >> I need to make sure to set the register to 8. >> >> If I update the image with a different value, >> the Boot ROM fails to boot. >> >> >> >> When the system has booted from NAND, >> the register is already set to 8. It works. >> >> However, when the system has booted from eMMC, >> the register is not initialized by anyone. >> I am searching for a way to set the register to 8 >> in this case. >> >> >> The boot ROM in SOCFPGA might expect a different value, >> I am not sure. > > Okay, then why not having a per-compatible value if it's related to the > BootROM? Unless the BootROM is part of the FPGA and can be > reprogrammed. FPGA is unrelated here. Neither the boot ROM nor the Denali core is re-programmable. I hesitate to associate the number of skipped bytes with the compatible string because it is not a parameter of the Denali IP. Rather, it is the matter of "how we use the OOB", so I want to leave room for customization like nand-ecc-strength etc. even if the boot ROM happens to expect a particular value. If you prefer a per-compatible value, I can do that, but I believe the NAND core and the boot ROM are orthogonal. > I'd really prefer not having a generic property that > allows you to put anything you want. -- Best Regards Masahiro Yamada