On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:28 AM, David Lechner <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 04/26/2018 12:31 PM, Rich Felker wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 05:29:18PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote: >>> >>> From: Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> This is a follow to my series[1] the aim of which was to introduce device >>> tree >>> support for early platform devices. >>> >>> It was received rather negatively. Aside from using device tree to pass >>> implementation specific details to the system, two important concerns >>> were >>> raised: no probe deferral support and the fact that currently the early >>> devices >>> never get converted to actual platform drivers. This series is a >>> proof-of-concept that's trying to address those issues. >>> >>> The only user of the current version of early platform drivers is the >>> SuperH >>> architecture. If this series eventually gets merged, we could simply >>> replace >>> the other solution. >> >> >> Looking at a quick output of: >> >> grep -r -A10 early_devices[[] arch/sh/kernel/ >> >> it looks like all of the existing early platform devices are serial >> ports, clocks, and clocksources. The switch to device tree should pick >> them all up from CLK_OF_DECLARE, TIMER_OF_DECLARE, and >> EARLYCON_DECLARE. Until that's complete, the existing code works >> as-is. I don't see what problem you're trying to solve. > > > The problem for us is that clk maintainers don't want new drivers to use > CLK_OF_DECLARE and instead use platform devices. I have just written such > a new driver that is shared by 6 different SoCs. For some combinations of > SoCs and clocks, using a platform device is fine but on others we need to > register early, so the drivers now have to handle both cases, which is > kind of messy and fragile. If there is a generic way to register platform > devices early, then the code is simplified because we only have to handle > one method of registering the clocks instead of two. The early_platform code is certainly not a way to make things simpler, it just adds one more way of doing the same thing that OF_CLK_DECLARE already does. We removed the last early_platform users on ARM a few years ago, and I would hope to leave it like that. I haven't seen the discussion about your clock drivers, but I know that usually only a very small subset of the clocks on an SoC are needed that 'early', and you should use a regular platform driver for the rest. Can you elaborate on which devices need to access your clocks before you are able to initialize the clk driver through the regular platform_driver framework? Do any of these need complex interactions with the clk subsystem, or do you just need to ensure they are turned on? Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html