On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 08:13:42PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote: > Hi Baruch, > > On 09/07/2017 02:25 AM, Baruch Siach wrote: > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/sff,sfp.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/sff,sfp.txt > > new file mode 100644 > > index 000000000000..60e970ce10ee > > --- /dev/null > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/sff,sfp.txt > > @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ > > +Small Form Factor (SFF) Committee Small Form-factor Pluggable (SFP) > > +Transceiver > > + > > +Required properties: > > + > > +- compatible : must be "sff,sfp" > > + > > +Optional Properties: > > + > > +- i2c-bus : phandle of an I2C bus controller for the SFP two wire serial > > + interface > > What was the reasoning behind using this property instead of making the > SFP a child of the i2c bus directly? Were you thinking that there could > be systems where the SFP is not i2c-addresable, but another 2-wire > protocol is used instead? This is not particularly wrong per-se I guess, > but usually, the parent/child relationship should make that more obvious. Here's what I said about this exact subject in August: What reg= value would you use to identify it? There's no particular I2C bus address. There's an EEPROM on the actual module, and there may be a PHY on the I2C bus (some PHYs include I2C as an alternative way to speak to them other than MDIO.) I2C couldn't probe these as they are effectively hotplugged. However, there's also the question about why it should be a child of the I2C bus - the I2C bus is just a means of communicating with and identifying the module. You could equally argue that it should be a child of the GPIO controller, because that's how it's controlled. You could also argue that it should be a child of the ethernet interface, since that's the main data path. The SFP support is basically a driver for a socket which has a hot-pluggable device, which may be empty at the time of probing. If it's empty, it just has an I2C bus, a bunch of GPIOs and a couple of serdes lanes routed to it, which appear on pins on the socket. There is no device that can be detected or probed. There is no I2C bus address of an empty socket. When a module is plugged in, then we get some I2C devices appearing. These can take one or more I2C bus addresses. The I2C device binding requires that all I2C child nodes specify the bus address of their device. Which address do you choose? Bear in mind that when the socket is empty, as there's no devices present, there wouldn't be a device for a driver to bind to, so this driver, which deals with the hot-plugging of the socket has no device to bind with. Think of the "sff,sfp" driver as a driver for the /socket/ rather than the /module/ in the socket. The SFF specifications give the requirements for the signals at the /socket/ and the driver implements those requirements. If drivers are required for the modules (because they have a PHY on them) the normal Linux PHY drivers get used for that. -- RMK's Patch system: http://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 8.8Mbps down 630kbps up According to speedtest.net: 8.21Mbps down 510kbps up -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html