On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 14:34 -0500, Rob Herring wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 16:18 -0500, Rob Herring wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:25 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 03:47:43PM +0200, Jerome Brunet wrote: > > > > > > The meson secure monitor seems to be compatible with more SoCs than > > > > > > initially thought. Let's use the most generic compatible he have in > > > > > > DT instead of the gxbb specific one > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/meson/meson_sm.txt | 4 > > > > > > ++-- > > > > > > drivers/firmware/meson/meson_sm.c | 4 > > > > > > ++-- > > > > > > 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > > > Seems like a pointless, not backwards compatible change to me. > > > > > > > > I've verified that it's backwards compatible with existing upstream DTs. > > > > > > Perhaps if you all are documenting only what the driver uses, not what > > > the dts can have as Jerome said. > > > > > > > > end, it's just a string to match on. Who cares what the string is. > > > > > > > > As platform maintiner, I very much care what the strings are and I want > > > > it to be coherent with the platform generic names, and I want the > > > > SoC-specific strings to correspond to the actual SoC names. > > > > > > The most specific compatible should be, absolutely. The fallbacks can > > > be anything really. Ideally, they are the compatible string for the > > > 1st SoC with "the same" compatible IP. Could be another vendor > > > entirely even because mergers happen. > > > > Then what's your problem with these patches again ? > > Removal of the SoC specific compatible and breaking compatibility. > Kevin says compatibility is not broken, but it obviously it based on > the example and the driver change. So that can only mean your dts file > doesn't match the example. I believe it does, but I suppose I have missed something. Currently the driver only matches on: .compatible = "amlogic,meson-gxbb-sm" (drivers/firmware/meson_sm.c) The only device-tree file using it is meson-gx.dtsi: compatible = "amlogic,meson-gx-sm", "amlogic,meson-gxbb-sm"; So: 1) yes the order is backward (thx for pointing this out) 2) by changing the compatible matched by the driver from "amlogic,meson-gxbb-sm" to "amlogic,meson-gx-sm", I don't think I am breaking anything. Feel free to point out why this is wrong because I don't get it. > > > I am just asking the driver to match the generic binding instead of the SoC > > specific, because we are also using it on other SoC, as explain in the patch > > comment. Does not seems that "pointless" to me. > > > > Right now the driver match only on: vendor,soc-one > > in dts, we have compatible = "vendor,family", "vendor,soc-one" > > That's backwards if I understand this right. It should be most > specific first, but that's a separate issue. > > > but it is compatible with soc-two as well. > > to match we would have to put "vendor,soc-one" as well which is a mess > > Why? That's how DT works and every other platform follows. Either you have: > > "vendor,soc-one", "vendor,family" > "vendor,soc-two", "vendor,family" > > or > > "vendor,soc-one" > "vendor,soc-two", "vendor,soc-one" > > The latter is how DT has existed and worked for 20+ years. The former > is what we allow because for some reason people have such an aversion > to saying soc2 is compatible with soc1. > > Either one is fine, but the documentation must be clear what the > constraints are for the dts file. For example, "vendor,soc-two" or > "vendor,family" alone are not valid. There's plenty of examples to except that the DT file where it is used is a soc family dtsi. meson-gx.dtsi is the common DT for gxbb and gxl family. Wouldn't it make sense to have the SoC generic compatible alone here ? and override it in the SoC DT if necessary ? > follow. Renesas is one using "vendor,family" extensively. > > > By expressing correctly what the driver is compatible with, "vendor,family" > > we can dts that makes sense for soc-two as well > > compatible = "vendor,family", "vendor,soc-two" Honestly, I don't care which of the 2 solutions we take. The important thing for me is to eliminate the confusion introduced by the generic-compatible being here and useless. The driver is indeed generic, but the related compatible is not matched. This makes no sense. So either: * we use "vendor,soc-one", "vendor,family" model: I believe this what I'm trying to do here. For this, we need to match the soc generic compatible in the driver. * we use the "vendor,soc-two", "vendor,soc-one" model : The driver keeps on matching the SoC specific compatible. We won't ever match the generic one with this model, what is the point of keeping it around in DT ? Should we remove it ? Maybe the later is better, it would end up just being a removal of an undocumented property from DT. > > Binding docs may live in the kernel, but they are separate from > drivers. They describe the constraints of the dts files. There's no > reason to document what the driver wants because I can read the driver > source. I can't say the same thing about the dts file. The dts may not > come from the kernel and one dts file is not all possible options for > a given binding. > > Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html