Re: [PATCH 4/5] mtd: nand: add support for Micron on-die ECC

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:02:22 +0000
"Bean Huo (beanhuo)" <beanhuo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi, Boris and Thomas
> Let me do some explanation.
> 
> >> if (NAND == SLC ) { // on-die ECC only exists in SLC //check device ID
> >> byte 4
> >>      if ((ID.byte4 & 0x02) == 0x02) {// internal ECC level ==10b  
> >
> >So here the MT29F1G08ABADAWP datasheet says 0x2 <=> 4bit/512bytes ECC.
> >  
> 
> If the NAND supports on-die ECC, here should be 10b, not matter it is 8bit or 4bit,
> You are correct, MT29F1G08ABADAWP is 0x2, its explanation is 4bit/512bytes ECC.
> But for the 70s, it is 8bit on-die ECC, but it is still 10b. 
> So that why here using these two bits to determine if exist on-die ECC.
> What's more, for some old products, they don't support on-die ECC,
> Sometimes, here is still 01b, so still need following codes to do further
> determinations.

Okay, then here is the differentiator. Did you check that on SLC NANDs
there's no collision on ID[4].bits[1:0]. I've seen NAND vendors
changing their ID scheme in incompatible ways (old fields were
replaced by new ones with completely different meanings).

I'd really like to make sure we're not mis-interpreting READ_ID
information, so maybe we should restrict the test on ONFI NANDs if all
NANDs supporting on-die ECC are ONFI compliant. We should probably also
check that chip->id.len >= 5.


> 
> >> 	if (ID.byte4 & 0x80) {//on-Die ECC enabled  
> >
> >Did you read my last reply?
> >Thomas discovered that ID[4].bit7 is actually reflecting the ECC engine state (1 if
> >the engine is enabled, 0 if it's disabled), not whether the NAND supports on-die
> >ECC or not, so no this test is not reliable.
> >  
> For the on-die ECC, it is not always default enabled. It depends on requirement from costumers.
> If on-die ECC is not enabled, bit7 is 0. It can be switched through "Feature Operations".

So this check is not needed, right?
BTW, do you have NANDs where the on-die ECC is always enabled, and if
this is the case, what happens when you call
SET_FEATURE(disable/enable-ECC) on these NANDs?

> 
> >>                     if (ONFI.byte112 == 4)
> >> 		 60s SLC NAND with on-die ECC
> >> 	    else if (ONFI.byte112 == 8)
> >>      	              70s SLC NAND with on-die ECC  
> >
> >This is completely fucked up! Now the ONFI param page says the NAND requires
> >8bits/512bytes, while the ID bytes advertised an on-die ECC providing
> >4bits/512bytes correctability.  
> 
> I think, my previous answers can answer this confusion.

Yep. BTW, sorry for being so harsh in my previous reply.
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