Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] overlays: auto allocate phandles for nodes in base fdt

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On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 15:47 -0600, Kyle Evans wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Kyle Evans <kevans@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Kyle Evans <kevans@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Frank Rowand  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [... snip ...]
> > > > 
> > > > Does this remove the need for the proposed patch, or am I still
> > > > missing something?
> > > ... nope. Apparently I never tested this with this particular dtc(1)
> > > and instead just assumed it did the same as ours- allocate phandle
> > > sparsely, even with -@. That certainly removes the need for this
> > > patch, and I'm somewhat upset that I hadn't previously considered
> > > this.
> > > 
> > > @David, Jon: Please disregard all of the patches along these lines...
> > > I'll fix this in our dtc, where it should be fixed.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Frank!
> > Actually, I'm kind of torn on whether this is useful or not. With
> > being able to have EFI-provided FDT, it's hard to guarantee whether
> > the FDT we're provided has been compiled with GPL dtc(1) and -@. The
> > above solves this problem for most of my personal use-cases , though,
> > since I can guarantee that our FDT and U-Boot provided FDT is compiled
> > properly.
> Apologies for the triple post; I realized that this argument is
> inherently wrong, since we can't reference the node if there's no
> symbol anyways.
> 
> The only way this might still be a good idea is to support more
> minimal cases where an implementation might prefer to not create a
> phandle for nodes that haven't been referenced.
> 
> In our case, we have a function [1] that walks the tree and generates
> metadata on nodes that have phandles, under the assumption that these
> have been referenced somewhere and provides a way to more quickly
> reference these specifically through a separate linked link.
> Allocating phandles for everything as GPL dtc does adds quite a bit
> more overhead to this.
> 
> [1] http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/freebsd-head/sys/dev/ofw/openfirm.c#119

In particular, it makes lookups more expensive as it now must traverse
a list that includes every node in the dtb, rather than just nodes that
are actually referenced.  (It also increases the amount of storage, but
at 20-ish bytes per node, that's not a big deal.)

-- Ian

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