RE: Announce loop-AES-v1.3b file crypto package

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Mr. Johannknecht, et al.:

	By having a website like "kerneli.org", and having it linked up to
kernel.org (an official kernel site), people are getting a very powerful and
distinct message that the I-patch is in fact an official release. That is
why people see it how they do. If you do not think there is an "official"
crypto stuff kernel, go look at the site. Anyone whom went to see it for the
first time would a very strong feeling its official, so I think your being a
bit obstinate to think otherwise.

	I (and I presume others) am a miss as to why if code can be written
independently of the kernel, why no one can integrate it into the kernel.
After all, I OWN MY COMPUTER, and if feel that a kernel patch outweighs only
have a single piece of functionality (just loop back aes) then it is my
choice to make. Nevertheless, we should get whatever "fixes" you speak of
integrated into the I-patch as well.

	Whatever strategy you choose "less-code" or "more kernel", the choices
ought to exist for individuals to make, that is my point. In addition, those
choices ought to be integrated into the I-patch.

	Now how terrible is the I-patch? Well let us evaluate the issues:

a) You must have SMP to appreciate the re-entrant code problem, and even if
that were not true, as per the author of the I-patch, it will soon be
resolved in the next release
b) IV problem: well this can easily be worked around by issuing a mkfs
command specifying a block size which is conducive (4096 I think, or 512 I
forget which) to the I-patch

Oh my, look what happened, no more bugs! Can it be? Maybe the I-patch is not
broken!


Very Respectfully,

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Monday, July 09, 2001 4:12 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hauke Johannknecht
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:41 PM
To: linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Announce loop-AES-v1.3b file crypto package

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, peter k. wrote:

> why dont you understand that its necessary to have 'official' crypto stuff
> for the kernel rather than telling everyone who asks for crypto that the
> official crypto sux and that he should use loop-AES?!!?

why dont you understand that there is no "official" crypto stuff?
who decides which of the varying implementations is the "official" one?
so far none of them got integrated into the main kernel tree.

the loopAES package actualy is a "fix" for the main problem of the
int-patch (ie the problems when applying it), if you can live
with the reduced featureset (ie all you want is loopback-encryption).

(this is getting a religious discussion. i still prefer the "less
 code"-strategy.)

Gruss,
  Hauke

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