* Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:20:02 +0100 > Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > * Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:05:37 +0100 > > > Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > * Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well it turns out that I was having a less-than-usually-senile moment: > > > > > > > > > > : implement flush_work() > > > > > > > > > Why isn't that working in this case?? > > > > > > > > how would that work in this case? We defer processing into the workqueue > > > > exactly because we want its per-CPU properties. > > > > > > It detaches the work item, moves it to head-of-queue, reinserts it then > > > waits on it. I think. > > > > > > This might have a race+hole. If a currently-running "unrelated" work > > > item tries to take the lock which the flush_work() caller is holding > > > then there's no way in which keventd will come back to execute the work > > > item which we just put on the head of queue. > > > > Correct - or the unrelated worklet might also be blocked on something - so > > the window is rather large. > > > > hm, OK, that sucks. > > But the deadlock still exists with Rusty's patches, doesn't it? We > still have a single kernel thread per CPU processing all the unrelated > work_on_cpu() callers. All we've done is to decouple work_on_cpu() from > the keventd queue. This particular deadlock does not exist - but you are indeed right that similar types of 'unrelated' interactions might exist in the future, as the usage of this facility is extended. > If correct, we'd need to create a gaggle of kernel threads on each call > to work_on_cpu(), which doesn't sound nice. > > A more efficient but trickier approach would be to create kernel threads > within flush_work(), with which to run the CPU-specific worklet. We > only need to do that in the case where the CPU's keventd thread was off > doing something and might deadlock, which will be rare. If the keventd > was just parked waiting for something to do then we can safely feed it > the to-be-flushed work item for immediate processing. i think what you describe is a variant of the syslet thread pool ;-) > It'd be saner to just say "don't call work_on_cpu() while holding locks" > :( I bet there's some lockdep infrastructre which we could peek into to > add the assertion check... The problem isnt doing the assertions - lockdep already covers workqueue dependencies very efficiently. The problem is the intrinsic utility of work_on_cpu(): we _really_ want such a generic facility to be usable from any (blockable) context, just like on_each_cpu(func, info) does for atomic functions, without restrictions on locking context. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe cpufreq" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html