Re: [RFC] quorum module configuration bits

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:37:54AM +0000, Christine Caulfield wrote:
> >mandated it. In fact you can run cman in RHEL4 and RHEL5 without any
> >nodes list if you don't need fencing. 'cman_tool join -X'

... and don't need proper quorum.

> One further comment, speaking from a GSS point-of view, anything
> that reduces the amount of configuration a user has to do to get a
> cluster up and running is a
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I agree, and I'll construe that to mean to you'd prefer corosync.conf
without a list of cluster nodes.

> That was one of my motivations behind the neglected -X option to
> cman. 

I like minimal config, and we did a pretty good job with cluster.conf IMO.
I often run clusters with just:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<cluster name="bull" config_version="1">
<clusternodes>
<clusternode name="bull-01" nodeid="1"/>
<clusternode name="bull-02" nodeid="2"/>
<clusternode name="bull-04" nodeid="4"/>
<clusternode name="bull-05" nodeid="5"/>
</clusternodes>
</cluster>

(Which is orders of magnitude better than what's currently possible with
corosync.conf BTW.  That was going to be my next campaign... if I get out
of this one caring any more :-)  Maybe you want to take that one up,
you'll probably have more success than I would.)

> The less a user has to configure, the less they will get wrong
> and the fewer support calls they will make.

Has the list of nodes specifically in cluster.conf been a source of
mistakes and support calls over the years?  My belief is that a lack of a
node list would make the cluster more *difficult* to manage, not easier,
which is mainly why I think it should be there.  As I said before, where
do you look for a list of all the nodes that *should* be in your cluster
when you think there might be one or two missing?  On your whiteboard?

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