Re: on exiting maintenance mode

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On 29 Aug 2014, at 10:54 am, Ferenc Wagner <wferi@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Andrew Beekhof <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2014, at 3:09 am, Ferenc Wagner <wferi@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> So crm_resource -r whatever -C is the way, for each resource separately.
>>> Is there no way to do this for all resources at once?
>> 
>> I think you can just drop the -r
> 
> Unfortunately, that does not work under version 1.1.7:

You know what I'm going to say here right?

> 
> $ sudo crm_resource -C
> Error performing operation: The object/attribute does not exist
> 
>>> Andrew Beekhof <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On 27 Aug 2014, at 3:40 am, Ferenc Wagner <wferi@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My experiences show that you may not *move around* resources while in
>>>>> maintenance mode.
>>>> 
>>>> Correct
>>>> 
>>>>> That would indeed require a cluster-wide re-probe, which does not
>>>>> seem to happen (unless forced some way).
>>> 
>>> After all this, I suggest to clarify this issue in the fine manual.
>>> I've read it a couple of times, and still got the wrong impression.
>> 
>> Which specific section do you suggest?
> 
> 5.7.1. Monitoring Resources for Failure

Ok, I'll endeavour to improve that section :)

> 
> Some points worth adding/emphasizing would be:
> 1. documentation of the role property (role=Master is mentioned later,
>   but role=Stopped never)
> 2. In maintenance mode, monitor operations don't run
> 3. If management of a resource is switched off, its role=Started monitor
>   operation continues running until failure, then the role=Stopped
>   kicks in (I'm guessing here; also, what about the other nodes?)
> 4. When management is enabled again, no re-probe happens, the cluster
>   expects the last state and location to be still valid
> 5. so don't even move unmanaged resources
> 6. unless you started a resource somewhere before starting the cluster
>   on that node, or you cleaned up the resource
> 7. same is true for maintenance mode, but for all resources.
> 
> I have to agree that most of this is evident once you know it.
> Unfortunately, it's also easy to get wrong while learning the ropes.
> For example, hastexo has some good information online:
> http://www.hastexo.com/resources/hints-and-kinks/maintenance-active-pacemaker-clusters
> But from the sentence "in maintenance mode, you can stop or restart
> cluster resources at will" I still miss the constraint of not moving the
> resource between the nodes.  Also, setting enabled="false" works funny,
> it did not get rid of the monitor operation before I set the resource to
> managed, and deleting the setting or changing it to true did bring it
> back.  I had to restart the resource to have monitor ops again.  Why?
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> Feri.
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