Re: Cluster among geographically separated nodes ?

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On 18/06/2009, at 9:42 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:11:42 +0530, Brahadambal Srinivasan
<brahadambal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
2. Fencing - any special methods to fence ?

Just be aware that if your site interconnect goes down, you'll end up with a hung cluster, since the nodes will disconnect and be unable to fence each
other. You could offset that by having separate cluster and fencing
interconnects, but you would also need to look into quorum - you need n/2+1 nodes for quorum, so to make this work sensibly you'd need at least three sites - otherwise if you lose the bigger site you lose the whole cluster
anyway.


This question came up last week as well so I have been thinking about the options here. Gordan's suggestion of three sites is a good one but may not be feasible for some.

If you are using replicated SAN LUN(s) for your shared storage, the LUN is only ever going to be active at one site. So, if you lose connectivity between sites you obviously want the cluster to remain operational at the site with the active storage LUN. I can imagine a cross-site accessible qdisk *almost* solving this problem.

The remaining issue, as I see it, is that if your network connectivity is lost the cluster will pause all services until it has successfully removed the failed nodes -- if it can't fence these nodes due to the lost network connectivity, you may end up with a site that effectively has quorum but all services are still hung. This sort of issue would especially arise if, for example, you lost ethernet connectivity but not FC/storage connectivity - the nodes at the remote site would still be able to access the qdisk. Perhaps a combination of power fencing (via ethernet) + storage fencing (on the local side of the SAN) could make this a workable solution?

Regards,
Tom

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