Interesting. You're right: # ceph config get osd osd_max_backfills 10 ## ceph-conf --show-config | egrep osd_max_backfills osd_max_backfills = 1 I don't know why that is happening. On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 17:13, Laimis Juzeliūnas <laimis.juzeliunas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One more question: > What’s the output of 'ceph config get osd osd_max_backfills’ after setting > osd_max_backfills? > Looks like ceph-config might be showing the wrong configurations. > > > Best, > Laimis J. > > On 4 Jan 2025, at 18:05, Laimis Juzeliūnas <laimis.juzeliunas@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Hello Bruno, > > Interesting case, few observations. > > What’s the average size of your PGs? > Judging from the ceph status you have 1394 pls in total and 696TiB of > used storage, that’s roughly 500GB per pg if I’m not mistaken. > With the backfilling limits this results in a lot of time spent per single > pg due to its size. You could try increasing their number in the pools to > have lighter placement groups. > > Are you using mclock? If yes, you can try setting the profile to > prioritise recovery operations with 'ceph config set osd > osd_mclock_profile high_recovery_ops' > > The max backfills configuration is an interesting one - it should persist. > What happens if you set it through the Ceph UI? > > In general it looks like the balancer might be “fighting” with the manual > OSD balancing. > You could try turning it off and do the balancing yourself (this might be > helpful: https://github.com/laimis9133/plankton-swarm). > > Also probably known already but keep in mind erasure coded pools are known > to be on the slower side when it comes to any data movement due to > additional operations needed. > > > Best, > *Laimis J.* > > > On 4 Jan 2025, at 13:18, bruno.pessanha@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Hi everyone. I'm still learning how to run Ceph properly in production. I > have a a cluster (Reef 18.2.4) with 10 nodes (8 x 15TB nvme's each). There > are prod 2 pools, one for RGW (3 x replica) and one for CephFS (EC 8k2m). > It was all fine but one users started store more data I started seeing: > 1. Very high number of misplaced PG's. > 2. OSD's very unbalanced and getting 90% full > ``` > ceph -s > > cluster: > id: 7805xxxe-6ba7-11ef-9cda-0xxxcxxx0 > health: HEALTH_WARN > Low space hindering backfill (add storage if this doesn't > resolve itself): 195 pgs backfill_toofull > 150 pgs not deep-scrubbed in time > 150 pgs not scrubbed in time > > services: > mon: 5 daemons, quorum host01,host02,host03,host04,host05 (age 7w) > mgr: host01.bwqkna(active, since 7w), standbys: host02.dycdqe > mds: 5/5 daemons up, 6 standby > osd: 80 osds: 80 up (since 7w), 80 in (since 4M); 323 remapped pgs > rgw: 30 daemons active (10 hosts, 1 zones) > > data: > volumes: 1/1 healthy > pools: 11 pools, 1394 pgs > objects: 159.65M objects, 279 TiB > usage: 696 TiB used, 421 TiB / 1.1 PiB avail > pgs: 230137879/647342099 objects misplaced (35.551%) > 1033 active+clean > 180 active+remapped+backfill_toofull > 123 active+remapped+backfill_wait > 28 active+clean+scrubbing > 15 active+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull > 10 active+clean+scrubbing+deep > 5 active+remapped+backfilling > > io: > client: 668 MiB/s rd, 11 MiB/s wr, 1.22k op/s rd, 1.15k op/s wr > recovery: 479 MiB/s, 283 objects/s > > progress: > Global Recovery Event (5w) > [=====================.......] (remaining: 11d) > ``` > > I've been trying to rebalance the OSD's manually since the balancer does > not work due to: > ``` > "optimize_result": "Too many objects (0.355160 > 0.050000) are misplaced; > try again later", > ``` > I manually re-weighted the top 10 most used OSD's and the number of > misplaced objects are going down very slowly. I think it could take many > weeks at that ratio. > There's almost 40% of total free space but the RGW pool is almost full at > ~94% I think because of OSD's unbalancing. > ``` > ceph df > --- RAW STORAGE --- > CLASS SIZE AVAIL USED RAW USED %RAW USED > ssd 1.1 PiB 421 TiB 697 TiB 697 TiB 62.34 > TOTAL 1.1 PiB 421 TiB 697 TiB 697 TiB 62.34 > > --- POOLS --- > POOL ID PGS STORED OBJECTS USED %USED > MAX AVAIL > .mgr 1 1 69 MiB 15 207 MiB 0 > 13 TiB > .nfs 2 32 172 KiB 43 574 KiB 0 > 13 TiB > .rgw.root 3 32 2.7 KiB 6 88 KiB 0 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.log 4 32 2.1 MiB 209 7.0 MiB 0 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.control 5 32 0 B 8 0 B 0 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.meta 6 32 97 KiB 280 3.5 MiB 0 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.buckets.index 7 32 16 GiB 2.41k 47 GiB 0.11 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.buckets.data 10 1024 197 TiB 133.75M 592 TiB 93.69 > 13 TiB > default.rgw.buckets.non-ec 11 32 78 MiB 1.43M 17 GiB 0.04 > 13 TiB > cephfs.cephfs01.data 12 144 83 TiB 23.99M 103 TiB 72.18 > 32 TiB > cephfs.cephfs01.metadata 13 1 952 MiB 483.14k 3.7 GiB 0 > 10 TiB > ``` > > I also tried changing the following but it does not seem to persist: > ``` > # ceph-conf --show-config | egrep > "osd_recovery_max_active|osd_recovery_op_priority|osd_max_backfills" > osd_max_backfills = 1 > osd_recovery_max_active = 0 > osd_recovery_max_active_hdd = 3 > osd_recovery_max_active_ssd = 10 > osd_recovery_op_priority = 3 > # ceph config set osd osd_max_backfills 10 > # ceph-conf --show-config | egrep > "osd_recovery_max_active|osd_recovery_op_priority|osd_max_backfills" > osd_max_backfills = 1 > osd_recovery_max_active = 0 > osd_recovery_max_active_hdd = 3 > osd_recovery_max_active_ssd = 10 > osd_recovery_op_priority = 3 > ``` > > 1. Why I ended up with so many misplaced PG's since there were no changes > on the cluster: number of osd's, hosts, etc. > 2. Is it ok to change the target_max_misplaced_ratio to something higher > than .05 so the autobalancer would work and I wouldn't have to constantly > rebalance the osd's manually? > 3. Is there a way to speed up the rebalance? > 4. Any other recommendation that could help to make my cluster healthy > again? > > Thank you! > > Bruno > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > > > -- Bruno Gomes Pessanha _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx
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