Cephadm Upgrade Issue

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Hi Folks,

I'm prototyping the upgrade process for our Ceph Clusters. I've adopted the Cluster following the docs, that works nicely 🙂 I then load my docker image into a locally running container registry, as I'm in a disconnected environment.  I have a test Cluster with 3 VMs and no data, adopted at Octopus and upgrading to Pacific. I'm running a MON, MGR, MDS and OSD on each VM.

I then attempt to upgrade:
ceph orch upgrade start --image localhost:5000/ceph/pacific:v16.2.15

Lots of logs below, but the summary appears to be that we initially fail to upgrade the managers and get into a bad state. It looks like there is some confusion in manager naming, and we end up with two managers on each machine instead of one. Eventually Ceph reports a health warning:

$ ceph -s
  cluster:
    id:     e773d9c2-6d8d-4413-8e8f-e38f248f5959
    health: HEALTH_ERR
            1 failed cephadm daemon(s)
            Module 'cephadm' has failed: 'cephadm'

That does seem to eventually clean its self up and the upgrade appears to have completed ("ceph versions" shows everything on Pacific), but it feels a bit bumpy. Hoping someone has some guidance here. The containers on one host during upgrade are shown below. Notice I somehow have two managers, where the names are a single character different (a "-" replaced with a "."):

$ docker ps | grep mgr
2143b6f0e0e6   localhost:5000/ceph/pacific:v16.2.15              "/usr/bin/ceph-mgr -…"   About a minute ago   Up About a minute             ceph-e773d9c2-6d8d-4413-8e8f-e38f248f5959-mgr.raynor-sc-2
59c8cfddac64   ceph-daemon:v5.0.12-stable-5.0-octopus-centos-8   "/usr/bin/ceph-mgr -…"   14 minutes ago       Up 14 minutes                 ceph-e773d9c2-6d8d-4413-8e8f-e38f248f5959-mgr-raynor-sc-2

In the output of "ceph -w" I see this sort of stuff:

2024-08-14T13:45:13.003405+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Manager daemon raynor-sc-3 is now available
2024-08-14T13:45:23.179699+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [ERR] Health check failed: Module 'cephadm' has failed: 'cephadm' (MGR_MODULE_ERROR)
2024-08-14T13:45:22.372376+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-3 [ERR] Unhandled exception from module 'cephadm' while running on mgr.raynor-sc-3: 'cephadm'
2024-08-14T13:45:24.761961+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:24.766395+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3
2024-08-14T13:45:31.800989+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Manager daemon raynor-sc-3 is now available
2024-08-14T13:45:32.874227+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Health check cleared: MGR_MODULE_ERROR (was: Module 'cephadm' has failed: 'cephadm')
2024-08-14T13:45:32.874269+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Cluster is now healthy
2024-08-14T13:45:33.664602+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:33.671809+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3
2024-08-14T13:45:34.050292+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Manager daemon raynor-sc-3 is now available
2024-08-14T13:45:38.260385+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [WRN] Health check failed: 1 failed cephadm daemon(s) (CEPHADM_FAILED_DAEMON)
2024-08-14T13:45:43.462665+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-3 [ERR] Unhandled exception from module 'cephadm' while running on mgr.raynor-sc-3: 'cephadm'
2024-08-14T13:45:44.770711+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [ERR] Health check failed: Module 'cephadm' has failed: 'cephadm' (MGR_MODULE_ERROR)
2024-08-14T13:45:45.668379+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:45.673206+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3
2024-08-14T13:45:45.673316+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:45.689515+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:45.694315+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3
2024-08-14T13:45:47.671192+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:47.674805+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3
2024-08-14T13:45:47.675037+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:47.697264+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Active manager daemon raynor-sc-3 restarted
2024-08-14T13:45:47.700886+0000 mon.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Activating manager daemon raynor-sc-3

And in the output of "ceph -W cephadm" I see:

2024-08-14T13:40:32.214742+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: First pull of localhost:5000/ceph/pacific:v16.2.15
2024-08-14T13:40:34.108767+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Target is localhost:5000/ceph/pacific:v16.2.15 with id 3c4eff6082ae7530e7eda038765ce400beb1bc1b8df67dffb45910eb45b06b2c
2024-08-14T13:40:34.112388+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Checking mgr daemons...
2024-08-14T13:40:34.112722+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Need to upgrade myself (mgr.raynor-sc-1)
2024-08-14T13:40:35.456432+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] It is presumed safe to stop ['mgr.raynor-sc-2']
2024-08-14T13:40:35.456620+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: It is presumed safe to stop ['mgr.raynor-sc-2']
2024-08-14T13:40:35.456771+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Redeploying mgr.raynor-sc-2
2024-08-14T13:40:35.481790+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Deploying daemon mgr.raynor-sc-2 on raynor-sc-2
2024-08-14T13:42:37.608895+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] refreshing raynor-sc-3 facts
2024-08-14T13:42:39.744098+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] refreshing raynor-sc-1 facts
2024-08-14T13:42:40.081740+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] refreshing raynor-sc-2 facts
2024-08-14T13:42:40.937375+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Applying drive group all-available-devices on host raynor-sc-1...
2024-08-14T13:42:40.937732+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Applying drive group all-available-devices on host raynor-sc-2...
2024-08-14T13:42:40.938079+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Applying drive group all-available-devices on host raynor-sc-3...
2024-08-14T13:42:46.226231+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Target is localhost:5000/ceph/pacific:v16.2.15 with id 3c4eff6082ae7530e7eda038765ce400beb1bc1b8df67dffb45910eb45b06b2c
2024-08-14T13:42:46.229604+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Checking mgr daemons...
2024-08-14T13:42:46.229727+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] Upgrade: Need to upgrade myself (mgr.raynor-sc-1)
2024-08-14T13:42:47.696110+0000 mgr.raynor-sc-1 [INF] It is presumed safe to stop ['mgr.raynor-sc-3']

My take on this is that we first start to attempt upgrade of the mgr on raynor-sc-2, and don't seem to detect it's not quite worked. Interestingly it seems that there is a two minute gap between the deploying line and the following line, I wonder if something is failing to come up and we're proceeding after a timer expires?

Any pointers are much appreciated.

Many thanks,
Alex


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