For osds that are added new, bfm_bytes_per_block is 4096. However, for osds that were added when the cluster was running octopus, bfm_bytes_per_block remains 65535. Based on https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/1c349451176cc5b4ebfb24b22eaaa754e05cff6c/src/os/bluestore/BitmapFreelistManager.cc and the space allocation section on page 360 of https://pdl.cmu.edu/PDL-FTP/Storage/ceph-exp-sosp19.pdf, it appears bfm_bytes_per_block is the bluestore_min_alloc_size that the osd was built with. Below is a sanitized example of what I was referring to as the osd label (which includes bfm_bytes_per_block) that was run on an osd built under octopus. The cluster was later upgraded to pacific. user@osd-host:/# ceph-bluestore-tool show-label --path /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-36 inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path { "/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-36/block": { "osd_uuid": "xxxx", "size": 4000783007744, "btime": "2021-09-14T15:16:55.605860+0000", "description": "main", "bfm_blocks": "61047168", "bfm_blocks_per_key": "128", "bfm_bytes_per_block": "65536", "bfm_size": "4000783007744", "bluefs": "1", "ceph_fsid": "xxxx", "kv_backend": "rocksdb", "magic": "ceph osd volume v026", "mkfs_done": "yes", "osd_key": "xxxx", "osdspec_affinity": "xxxx", "ready": "ready", "require_osd_release": "16", "whoami": "36" } } I'm really interested in learning the answers to the questions in the original post. Thanks, Joel On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:11 PM Anthony D'Atri <anthony.datri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Feb 28, 2024, at 17:55, Joel Davidow <jdavidow@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Current situation > ----------------- > We have three Ceph clusters that were originally built via cephadm on > octopus and later upgraded to pacific. All osds are HDD (will be moving to > wal+db on SSD) and were resharded after the upgrade to enable rocksdb > sharding. > > The value for bluefs_shared_alloc_size has remained unchanged at 65535. > > The value for bluestore_min_alloc_size_hdd was 65535 in octopus but is > reported as 4096 by ceph daemon osd.<id> config show in pacific. > > > min_alloc_size is baked into a given OSD when it is created. The central > config / runtime value does not affect behavior for existing OSDs. The > only way to change it is to destroy / redeploy the OSD. > > There was a succession of PRs in the Octopus / Pacific timeframe around > default min_alloc_size for HDD and SSD device classes, including IIRC one > temporary reversion. > > However, the osd label after upgrading to pacific retains the value of > 65535 for bfm_bytes_per_block. > > > OSD label? > > I'm not sure if your Pacific release has the back port, but not that along > ago `ceph osd metadata` was amended to report the min_alloc_size that a > given OSD was built with. If you don't have that, the OSD's startup log > should report it. > > -- aad > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx