Re: concept of ceph and 2 datacenters

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On 14.02.24 06:59, Vladimir Sigunov wrote:
> Hi Ronny,
> This is a good starting point for your design.
> https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/rados/operations/stretch-mode/
> 
> My personal experience says that 2 DC Ceph deployment could suffer from a 'split brain' situation. If you have any chance to create a 3 DC configuration, I would suggest to consider it. It could be more expensive, but it definitely will be more reliable and fault tolerant.

The docs you linked mention[0] a tiebreaker monitor (which could be a VM / in the cloud) -- have you used something like this?

[0] https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/rados/operations/stretch-mode/#limitations-of-stretch-mode

cheers,
peter.
 
> Sincerely,
> Vladimir
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> Subject:  concept of ceph and 2 datacenters
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> hi there,
> i have a design/concept question, to see, whats outside and which kind
> of redundancy you use.
> 
> actually, we use 2 ceph cluster with rbd-mirror to have an cold-standby
> clone.
> but, rbd mirror is not application consistend. so we cannot be sure,
> that all vms (kvm/proxy) are running.
> we also waste a lot of hardware.
> 
> so now, we think about one big cluster over the two datacenters (two
> buildings).
> 
> my queston is, do you care about ceph redundancy or is one ceph with
> backups enough for you?
> i know, with ceph, we are aware of hdd or server failure. but, are
> software failures a real scenario?
> 
> would be great, to get some ideas from you.
> also about the bandwidth between the 2 datacenters.
> we are using 2x 6 proxmox server with 2x6x9 osd (sas ssd).
> 
> thanks for help, my minds are rotating.
> 
> kind regards,
> ronny
> 
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