-> "At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14 but not cutting the symlink over for $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” seems like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent these specific issues going forward."
This should be standard procedure for new releases. Numerous linux distributions already operate this way to make sure mirrors get copes before the thundering herds do upgrades.
--
Paul Mezzanini
Platform Engineer III
Research Computing
Rochester Institute of Technology
“End users is a description, not a goal.”
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From: Reed Dier <reed.dier@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:16 PM
To: Yuri Weinstein
Cc: ceph-users
Subject: Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete
This is more the sentiment that I was hoping to convey.
Sure, I have my finger on the pulse of the mailing list and the packages coming down the pipe, but assuming that everyone does and/or will is not a safe assumption.
At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14 but not cutting the symlink over for $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” seems like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent these specific issues going forward.
Likewise, $repourl/rpm-pacific is already pointing to $repourl/rpm-16.2.14 as well, so its not a debian specific issue, albeit it looks like there were no issues with missing packages on el8.
But the packages were still “pre-released” before we are supposed to use them.
Anything making it to $repourl/{deb,rpm}-$named_release should be “safe.”
Because the documentation<https://docs.ceph.com/en/pacific/install/get-packages/#configure-repositories-manually> uses the named repos, as it should, and right now the documentation is effectively broken.
ubuntu@mini-pacific:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list ; sudo apt update | grep ceph ; sudo apt install ceph ceph-osd ceph-mon ceph-mgr
deb https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific/ focal main
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
Hit:5 https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific focal InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ceph-mgr : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going to be installed
ceph-mon : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going to be installed
ceph-osd : PreDepends: ceph-common (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Reed
On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Burkhard Linke <Burkhard.Linke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Burkhard.Linke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi,
On 8/30/23 18:26, Yuri Weinstein wrote:
16.2.14 has not been released yet.
Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
Then stop pushing packets before the announcement. This is not the first time this problem occurred. And given your answer I'm afraid it won't be the last time.
It can't be that hard to coordinate releases.....
Regards,
Burkhard
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