Re: Do not use SSDs with (small) SLC cache

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What fio test would indicate this behaviour up front? I guess something like this, but with a duration larger than this disk cache?

[randwrite-4k-seq]
stonewall
bs=4k
rw=randwrite
fsync=1



> thank you for your hint - any input is appreciated. Please note that
> Ceph does highly random IO (especially when having small object sizes),
> AnandTech also states:
> 
> "Some of our other tests have shown a few signs that the 870 EVO's write
> performance can drop when the SLC cache runs out, but this
> straightforward sequential write pass over the entire drive doesn't
> reveal any such behavior. The 870 EVO's sequential write performance is
> extremely consistent, even on the second write pass." [3]
> 
> So this kind of cache handling is very interesting under the hood,
> because it seems the Samsung SSD 870 Evo is able to handle sequential io
> at nearly SATA line speed. However the random behaviour seems to be
> inconsistent - maybe I'm able to run a big fio on the ssd once I have
> one of these on my desk, but I can't promise I'll have time to.
> 
> More interesting: We also have some Kingston SEDC450. Kingston even
> promises constant write speed [4] - even when specifying lower
> performance. At least those drives did not fell into my eye (but I did
> not examine the situation specially).
> 
> [4] https://www.kingston.com/en/ssd/dc450-data-center-solid-state-drive
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mailing-lists <mailing-lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Februar 2023 10:21
> An: ceph-users@xxxxxxx
> Betreff:  Re: Do not use SSDs with (small) SLC cache
> 
> Dear Michael,
> 
> I don't have an explanation for your problem unfortunately, but I just
> wondered that you experience a drop in performance, that this SSD
> shouldn't have. Your SSDs drives (Samsung 870 EVO) should not get slower
> on large writes. You can verify this on the post you've attached [1] or
> here [3].
> 
> I am curious if replacing them with other disks will improve it.
> 
> 
> [3]
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/16480/the-samsung-870-evo-ssd-1tb-4tb-
> review/4
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Ken
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