Re: cephadm automatic sizing of WAL/DB on SSD

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Hi

The problem is still present in version 17.2.3, 
thanks for the trick to work around...

Regards

----- Mail original -----
> De: "Anh Phan Tuan" <anhphan.net@xxxxxxxxx>
> À: "Calhoun, Patrick" <phineas@xxxxxx>
> Cc: "Arthur Outhenin-Chalandre" <arthur.outhenin-chalandre@xxxxxxx>, "ceph-users" <ceph-users@xxxxxxx>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Août 2022 10:14:17
> Objet:  Re: cephadm automatic sizing of WAL/DB on SSD

> Hi Patrick,
> 
> I am also facing this bug when deploying a new cluster at the time 16.2.7
> release.
> 
> The bugs relative to the way ceph calculator db_size form give db disk.
> 
> Instead of : slot db size = size of db disk / num slot per disk.
> Ceph calculated the value: slot db size = size of db disk (just one disk) /
> total number of slots needed (number of osd prepared in that time).
> 
> In your case, you have 2 db disks, It will make the db size only 50% of the
> corrected value.
> In my case, I have 4 db disks per host, It makes the db size only 25% of
> the corrected value.
> 
> This bug happens even when you deploy by batch command.
> In that time, I finally used to work around by batch command but only
> deploy all osd relative to one db disk a time, in this case ceph calculated
> the correct value.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anh Phan
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 12:31 AM Calhoun, Patrick <phineas@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Arthur,
>>
>> I think you are right about that bug looking very similar to what I've
>> observed. I'll try to remember to update the list once the fix is merged
>> and released and I get a chance to test it.
>>
>> I'm hoping somebody can comment on what are ceph's current best practices
>> for sizing WAL/DB volumes, considering rocksdb levels and compaction.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Arthur Outhenin-Chalandre <arthur.outhenin-chalandre@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 2:11 AM
>> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxx <ceph-users@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject:  Re: cephadm automatic sizing of WAL/DB on SSD
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> On 7/28/22 16:22, Calhoun, Patrick wrote:
>> > In a new OSD node with 24 hdd (16 TB each) and 2 ssd (1.44 TB each), I'd
>> like to have "ceph orch" allocate WAL and DB on the ssd devices.
>> >
>> > I use the following service spec:
>> > spec:
>> >   data_devices:
>> >     rotational: 1
>> >     size: '14T:'
>> >   db_devices:
>> >     rotational: 0
>> >     size: '1T:'
>> >   db_slots: 12
>> >
>> > This results in each OSD having a 60GB volume for WAL/DB, which equates
>> to 50% total usage in the VG on each ssd, and 50% free.
>> > I honestly don't know what size to expect, but exactly 50% of capacity
>> makes me suspect this is due to a bug:
>> > https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/54541
>> > (In fact, I had run into this bug when specifying block_db_size rather
>> than db_slots)
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> >   Am I being bit by that bug?
>> >   Is there a better approach, in general, to my situation?
>> >   Are DB sizes still governed by the rocksdb tiering? (I thought that
>> this was mostly resolved by https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/29687 )
>> >   If I provision a DB/WAL logical volume size to 61GB, is that
>> effectively a 30GB database, and 30GB of extra room for compaction?
>>
>> I don't use cephadm, but it's maybe related to this regression:
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/56031. At list the symptoms looks very
>> similar...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> Arthur Outhenin-Chalandre
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