Re: cephadm automatic sizing of WAL/DB on SSD

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Hi Patrick,

I am also facing this bug when deploying a new cluster at the time 16.2.7
release.

The bugs relative to the way ceph calculator db_size form give db disk.

Instead of : slot db size = size of db disk / num slot per disk.
Ceph calculated the value: slot db size = size of db disk (just one disk) /
total number of slots needed (number of osd prepared in that time).

In your case, you have 2 db disks, It will make the db size only 50% of the
corrected value.
In my case, I have 4 db disks per host, It makes the db size only 25% of
the corrected value.

This bug happens even when you deploy by batch command.
In that time, I finally used to work around by batch command but only
deploy all osd relative to one db disk a time, in this case ceph calculated
the correct value.

Cheers,
Anh Phan



On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 12:31 AM Calhoun, Patrick <phineas@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks, Arthur,
>
> I think you are right about that bug looking very similar to what I've
> observed. I'll try to remember to update the list once the fix is merged
> and released and I get a chance to test it.
>
> I'm hoping somebody can comment on what are ceph's current best practices
> for sizing WAL/DB volumes, considering rocksdb levels and compaction.
>
> -Patrick
>
> ________________________________
> From: Arthur Outhenin-Chalandre <arthur.outhenin-chalandre@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 2:11 AM
> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxx <ceph-users@xxxxxxx>
> Subject:  Re: cephadm automatic sizing of WAL/DB on SSD
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> On 7/28/22 16:22, Calhoun, Patrick wrote:
> > In a new OSD node with 24 hdd (16 TB each) and 2 ssd (1.44 TB each), I'd
> like to have "ceph orch" allocate WAL and DB on the ssd devices.
> >
> > I use the following service spec:
> > spec:
> >   data_devices:
> >     rotational: 1
> >     size: '14T:'
> >   db_devices:
> >     rotational: 0
> >     size: '1T:'
> >   db_slots: 12
> >
> > This results in each OSD having a 60GB volume for WAL/DB, which equates
> to 50% total usage in the VG on each ssd, and 50% free.
> > I honestly don't know what size to expect, but exactly 50% of capacity
> makes me suspect this is due to a bug:
> > https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/54541
> > (In fact, I had run into this bug when specifying block_db_size rather
> than db_slots)
> >
> > Questions:
> >   Am I being bit by that bug?
> >   Is there a better approach, in general, to my situation?
> >   Are DB sizes still governed by the rocksdb tiering? (I thought that
> this was mostly resolved by https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/29687 )
> >   If I provision a DB/WAL logical volume size to 61GB, is that
> effectively a 30GB database, and 30GB of extra room for compaction?
>
> I don't use cephadm, but it's maybe related to this regression:
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/56031. At list the symptoms looks very
> similar...
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Arthur Outhenin-Chalandre
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