The demand for LTS - at least in our case - does not stem from unprofessionalism or biased opinion. It's the desire to stay up to date on security patches as much as possible while maintaining a well tested and stable environment. Both Pacific and Octopus (we’re currently on Nautilus) have some problems within themselves that made us not upgrading our cluster. The latest releases felt kind of rushed out rather than well tested. We (the LTS „faction“) still would like to keep up with security and minor patches on the cluster. We’re not talking about backporting new features. There’s a saying: „Never change a running system“ -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Oberhausen Daniel Tönnißen (Systemadministrator) <https://www.kamp.de/> <https://www.kamp.de/unternehmen/iso-27001.html> KAMP Netzwerkdienste GmbH Vestische Str. 89−91 | 46117 Oberhausen Fon:+49 (0) 208.89 402-50 <tel:+492088940250> Fax: +49 (0) 208.89 402-40E-Mail:dt@xxxxxxx <mailto:dt@xxxxxxx> WWW: https://www.kamp.de Geschäftsführer: Heiner Lante | Michael Lante | Amtsgericht Duisburg | HRB Nr. 12154 | USt-IdNr.: DE120607556 HINWEIS: UNSERE HINWEISE ZUM UMGANG MIT PERSONENBEZOGENEN DATEN FINDEN SIE IN UNSERER DATENSCHUTZERKLÄRUNG UNTER HTTPS://WWW.KAMP.DE/DATENSCHUTZ.HTML <https://www.kamp.de/datenschutz.html> DIESE NACHRICHT IST NUR FÜR DEN ADRESSATEN BESTIMMT. ES IST NICHT ERLAUBT, DIESE NACHRICHT ZU KOPIEREN ODER DRITTEN ZUGÄNGLICH ZU MACHEN. SOLLTEN SIE IRRTÜMLICH DIESE NACHRICHT ERHALTEN HABEN, BITTE ICH UM IHRE MITTEILUNG PER E-MAIL ODER UNTER DER OBEN ANGEGEBENEN TELEFONNUMMER. > Am 17.11.2021 um 14:26 schrieb Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > The CLT is discussing a more feasible alternative to LTS, namely to > publish an RC for each point release and involve the user community to > help test it. > This can be discussed at the user-dev meeting tomorrow. > https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-user-dev-monthly-minutes > (BTW I just restored that etherpad -- it had been spammed). > > Cheers, Dan > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:10 PM Eneko Lacunza <elacunza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> I think the desire for a LTS version comes from the perception that >> lately latest stable Ceph is not as stable as it has been before. >> >> So in that regard LTS version is a means, not the objective, at least >> for us. >> >> Cheers >> >> El 17/11/21 a las 14:01, Igor Fedotov escribió: >>> First of all that's an open source - so developers tend to have higher >>> influence to decision making. >>> >>> And you can replace "among developers" to "among CLT" in my previous >>> post... >>> >>> Hopefully this position can be shifter if there is a wide "feature >>> request" from the field hence please try to share your thoughts at the >>> upcoming meeting. >>> >>> >>> Igor >>> >>> On 11/17/2021 3:40 PM, Marc wrote: >>>> But since when do developers decide? Do you know any factory where >>>> factory workers decide what product they are going to make and not >>>> the product management??? IT is becoming such a refuge for undetected >>>> unprofessionals. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yeah, generally there is no much enthusiasm about supporting that among >>>>> developers. But it would be nice to hear points from user side >>>>> anyway... >>>>> >>>>> Igor >>>>> >>>>> On 11/17/2021 2:29 PM, Peter Lieven wrote: >>>>>> Am 17.11.21 um 12:20 schrieb Igor Fedotov: >>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sure, why not... >>>>>> See [1]. I read it that it is not wanted by upstream developers. If we >>>>> want it the community has to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nevertheless, I have put it on the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>> https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/dev@xxxxxxx/thread/J3M3JWER7DS4CM3 >>>>> >>>>> FNWLTG543X4VPJN7E/ >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Igor Fedotov >>>>> Ceph Lead Developer >>>>> >>>>> Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? Contact us at https://croit.io >>>>> >>>>> croit GmbH, Freseniusstr. 31h, 81247 Munich >>>>> CEO: Martin Verges - VAT-ID: DE310638492 >>>>> Com. register: Amtsgericht Munich HRB 231263 >>>>> Web: https://croit.io | YouTube: https://goo.gl/PGE1Bx >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>> >> >> Eneko Lacunza >> Zuzendari teknikoa | Director técnico >> Binovo IT Human Project >> >> Tel. +34 943 569 206 | https://www.binovo.es >> Astigarragako Bidea, 2 - 2º izda. 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