Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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Istvan,

So things with migrations are clear at the moment, right? As I mentioned the migrate command in 15.2.14 has a bug which causes corrupted OSD if db->slow migration occurs on spilled over OSD. To work around that you might want to migrate slow to db first or try manual compaction. Please make sure there is no spilled over data left after any of them via bluestore-tool's bluestore-bdev-sizes command before proceeding with db->slow migrate...

just a side note - IMO it sounds a bit controversial that you're expecting/experiencing better performance without standalone DB and at the same time spillovers cause performance issues... Spillover means some data goes to main device (which you're trying to achieve by migrating as well) hence it would rather improve things... Or the root cause of your performace issues is different... Just want to share my thoughts - I don't have any better ideas about that so far...


Thanks,

Igor

On 10/12/2021 2:54 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

I’m having 1 billions of objects in the cluster and we are still increasing and faced spillovers allover the clusters.

After 15-18 spilledover osds (out of the 42-50) the osds started to die, flapping.

Tried to compact manually the spilleovered ones, but didn’t help, however the not spilled osds less frequently crashed.

In our design 3 ssd was used 1 nvme for db+wal, but this nvme has 30k iops on random write, however the ssds behind this nvme have individually 67k so actually the SSDs are faster in write than the nvme which means our config suboptimal.

I’ve decided to update the cluster to 15.2.14 to be able to run this ceph-volume lvm migrate command and started to use it.

10-20% is the failed migration at the moment, 80-90% is successful.

I want to avoid this spillover in the future so I’ll use bare SSDs as osds without wal+db. At the moment my iowait decreased  a lot without nvme drives, I just hope didn’t do anything wrong with this migration right?

The failed ones I’m removing from the cluster and add it back after cleaned up.

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You mean you run migrate for these 72 OSDs and all of them aren't starting any more? Or you just upgraded them to Octopus and experiencing performance issues.

In the latter case and if you have enough space at DB device you might want to try to migrate data from slow to db first. Run fsck (just in case) and then migrate from DB/WAl back to slow.

Theoretically this should help in avoiding the before-mentioned bug. But  I haven't try that personally...

And this wouldn't fix the corrupted OSDs if any though...

Thanks,

Igor

On 10/12/2021 2:36 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

    Omg, I’ve already migrated 24x osds in each dc-s (altogether 72).

    What should I do then? 12 left (altogether 36). In my case slow
    device is faster in random write iops than the one which is
    serving it.

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        On 2021. Oct 12., at 13:21, Igor Fedotov
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        Istvan,

        you're bitten by

        It's not fixed in 15.2.14. This has got a backport to upcoming
        Octopus
        minor release. Please do not use 'migrate' command from WAL/DB
        to slow
        volume if some data is already present there...

        Thanks,

        Igor


        On 10/12/2021 12:13 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

            Hi Igor,

            I’ve attached here, thank you in advance.

            Istvan Szabo

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            No,

            that's just backtrace of the crash - I'd like to see the
            full OSD log from the process startup till the crash
            instead...

            On 10/8/2021 4:02 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

            Hi Igor,

            Here is a bluestore tool fsck output:

            https://justpaste.it/7igrb <https://justpaste.it/7igrb>

            Is this that you are looking for?

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            Not sure dmcrypt is a culprit here.

            Could you please set debug-bluefs to 20 and collect an OSD
            startup log.

            On 10/5/2021 4:43 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

            Hmm, tried another one which hasn’t been spilledover disk,
            still coredumped ☹

            Is there any special thing that we need to do before we
            migrate db next to the block? Our osds are using dmcrypt,
            is it an issue?

            {

                "backtrace": [

                    "(()+0x12b20) [0x7f310aa49b20]",

                    "(gsignal()+0x10f) [0x7f31096aa37f]",

                    "(abort()+0x127) [0x7f3109694db5]",

                    "(()+0x9009b) [0x7f310a06209b]",

                    "(()+0x9653c) [0x7f310a06853c]",

                    "(()+0x95559) [0x7f310a067559]",

                    "(__gxx_personality_v0()+0x2a8) [0x7f310a067ed8]",

                    "(()+0x10b03) [0x7f3109a48b03]",

                    "(_Unwind_RaiseException()+0x2b1) [0x7f3109a49071]",

                    "(__cxa_throw()+0x3b) [0x7f310a0687eb]",

                    "(()+0x19fa4) [0x7f310b7b6fa4]",

                    "(tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom(unsigned
            long)+0x146) [0x7f310b7d8c96]",

                    "(()+0x10d0f8e) [0x55ffa520df8e]",

                    "(rocksdb::Version::~Version()+0x104)
            [0x55ffa521d174]",

                    "(rocksdb::Version::Unref()+0x21) [0x55ffa521d221]",

                    "(rocksdb::ColumnFamilyData::~ColumnFamilyData()+0x5a)
            [0x55ffa52efcca]",

                    "(rocksdb::ColumnFamilySet::~ColumnFamilySet()+0x88)
            [0x55ffa52f0568]",

                    "(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x5e)
            [0x55ffa520e01e]",

                    "(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x11)
            [0x55ffa520e261]",

                    "(rocksdb::DBImpl::CloseHelper()+0x616)
            [0x55ffa5155ed6]",

                    "(rocksdb::DBImpl::~DBImpl()+0x83b) [0x55ffa515c35b]",

                    "(rocksdb::DBImplReadOnly::~DBImplReadOnly()+0x11)
            [0x55ffa51a3bc1]",

                    "(rocksdb::DB::OpenForReadOnly(rocksdb::DBOptions
            const&, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
            std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&,
            std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor,
            std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor> > const&,
            std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*,
            std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*> >*,
            rocksdb::DB**, bool)+0x1089) [0x55ffa51a57e9]",

                    "(RocksDBStore::do_open(std::ostream&, bool, bool,
            std::vector<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily,
            std::allocator<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily> > const*)+0x14ca)
            [0x55ffa51285ca]",

                    "(BlueStore::_open_db(bool, bool, bool)+0x1314)
            [0x55ffa4bc27e4]",

                    "(BlueStore::_open_db_and_around(bool)+0x4c)
            [0x55ffa4bd4c5c]",

                    "(BlueStore::_mount(bool, bool)+0x847)
            [0x55ffa4c2e047]",

                    "(OSD::init()+0x380) [0x55ffa4753a70]",

                    "(main()+0x47f1) [0x55ffa46a6901]",

                    "(__libc_start_main()+0xf3) [0x7f3109696493]",

                    "(_start()+0x2e) [0x55ffa46d4e3e]"

                ],

                "ceph_version": "15.2.14",

                "crash_id":
            "2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z_b6818598-4960-4ed6-942a-d4a7ff37a758",

                "entity_name": "osd.48",

                "os_id": "centos",

                "os_name": "CentOS Linux",

                "os_version": "8",

                "os_version_id": "8",

                "process_name": "ceph-osd",

                "stack_sig":
            "6a43b6c219adac393b239fbea4a53ff87c4185bcd213724f0d721b452b81ddbf",

                "timestamp": "2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z",

                "utsname_hostname": "server-2s07",

                "utsname_machine": "x86_64",

                "utsname_release": "4.18.0-305.19.1.el8_4.x86_64",

                "utsname_sysname": "Linux",

                "utsname_version": "#1 SMP Wed Sep 15 15:39:39 UTC 2021"

            }

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            Subject: 回复:  Re: is it possible to remove the
            db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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            The stack trace (tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom)
            seems indicating you don’t have enough memory.

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            主题:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal
            from an external device (nvme)

            Seems like it cannot start anymore once migrated ☹

            https://justpaste.it/5hkot <https://justpaste.it/5hkot>

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            Subject: Re:  Re: is it possible to remove the
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            Hi Istvan,

            yeah both db and wal to slow migration are supported. And
            spillover state isn't a show stopper for that.

            On 10/2/2021 1:16 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

            Dear Igor,

            Is the ceph-volume lvm migrate command smart enough in
            octopus 15.2.14 to be able to remove the db (included the
            wall) from the nvme even if it is spilledover? I can’t
            compact back to normal many disk to not show spillover
            warning.

            I think Christian has the truth of the issue, my

            Nvme with 30k rand write iops backing 3x ssd with 67k rand
            write iops each …

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            3x SSD osd /nvme

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            Subject:  Re: is it possible to remove the
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            And how many OSDs are per single NVMe do you have?

            On 10/1/2021 9:55 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

            I have my dashboards and I can see that the db nvmes are
            always running on 100% utilization (you can monitor with
            iostat -x 1)  and it generates all the time iowaits which
            is between 1-3.

            I’m using nvme in front of the ssds.

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            Hi,

            I'm curious - how did you tell that the separate WAL+DB
            volume was slowing things down? I assume you did some
            benchmarking - is there any chance you'd be willing to
            share results? (Or anybody else that's been in a similar
            situation).

            What sorts of devices are you using for the WAL+DB, versus
            the data disks?

            We're using NAND SSDs, with Optanes for the WAL+DB, and on
            some

            systems I am seeing slowly than expected behaviour - need
            to dive

            deeper into it

            In my case, I was running with 4 or 2 OSDs per Optane volume:

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ceph/comments/k2lef1/how_many_waldb_partition
            <https://www.reddit.com/r/ceph/comments/k2lef1/how_many_waldb_partition>

            s_can_you_run_per_optane/

            but I couldn't seem to get the results I'd expected - so
            curious what people are seeing in the real world - and of
            course, we might need to follow the steps here to remove
            them as well.

            Thanks,

            Victor

            On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 16:10, Eugen Block <eblock@xxxxxx
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            Yes, I believe for you it should work without containers
            although I

            haven't tried the migrate command in a non-containerized
            cluster yet.

            But I believe this is a general issue for containerized
            clusters with

            regards to maintenance. I haven't checked yet if there are
            existing

            tracker issues for this, but maybe this should be worth
            creating one?

            Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx
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            Actually I don't have containerized deployment, my is
            normal one. So

            it should work the lvm migrate.

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            Subject: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an
            external

            device (nvme)

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            That's what I did and pasted the results in my previous
            comments.

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            Yes. And “cephadm shell” command does not depend on the
            running

            daemon, it will start a new container. So I think it is
            perfectly

            fine to stop the OSD first then run the “cephadm shell”
            command, and

            run ceph-volume in the new shell.

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            主题: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an
            external device

            (nvme)

            The OSD has to be stopped in order to migrate DB/WAL, it
            can't be

            done live. ceph-volume requires a lock on the device.

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            I’ve not tried it, but how about:

            cephadm shell -n osd.0

            then run “ceph-volume” commands in the newly opened shell. The

            directory structure seems fine.

            $ sudo cephadm shell -n osd.0

            Inferring fsid e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864

            Inferring config

            /var/lib/ceph/e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864/osd.0/config

            Using recent ceph image

            cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d<mailto:cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d
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            37<http://cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3
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            d7a9b37db1e0ff6691aae6466530 root@host0:/# ll

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ total 68

            drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 20 04:15 ./

            drwxr-x--- 1 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 29 13:32 ../

            lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   24 Sep 20 04:15 block ->
            /dev/ceph-hdd/osd.0.data

            lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   23 Sep 20 04:15 block.db ->

            /dev/ubuntu-vg/osd.0.db

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   37 Sep 20 04:15 ceph_fsid

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph  387 Jun 21 13:24 config

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   37 Sep 20 04:15 fsid

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   55 Sep 20 04:15 keyring

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph    6 Sep 20 04:15 ready

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph    3 Apr  2 01:46 require_osd_release

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   10 Sep 20 04:15 type

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   38 Sep 17 14:26 unit.configured

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   48 Nov  9  2020 unit.created

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph   35 Sep 17 14:26 unit.image

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph  306 Sep 17 14:26 unit.meta

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 1317 Sep 17 14:26 unit.poststop

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 3021 Sep 17 14:26 unit.run

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph  142 Sep 17 14:26 unit.stop

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph    2 Sep 20 04:15 whoami

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            主题: Re:  Re: 回复: [ceph-users] Re: is it
            possible to

            remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

            Hi Igor,

            thanks for your input. I haven't done this in a prod env yet

            either, still playing around in a virtual lab env.

            I tried the symlink suggestion but it's not that easy,
            because it

            looks different underneath the ceph directory than ceph-volume

            expects it. These are the services underneath:

            ses7-host1:~ # ll

            /var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/

            insgesamt 48

            drwx------ 3 root       root   4096 16. Sep 16:11
            alertmanager.ses7-host1

            drwx------ 3 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 09:03 crash

            drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:39
            crash.ses7-host1

            drwx------ 4 messagebus lp     4096 16. Sep 16:23
            grafana.ses7-host1

            drw-rw---- 2 root       root   4096 24. Aug 10:00 home

            drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:37
            mgr.ses7-host1.wmgyit

            drwx------ 3 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:37
            mon.ses7-host1

            drwx------ 2 nobody     nobody 4096 16. Sep 16:37
            node-exporter.ses7-host1

            drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 08:43 osd.0

            drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 15:11 osd.1

            drwx------ 4 root       root   4096 16. Sep 16:12
            prometheus.ses7-host1

            While the directory in a non-containerized deployment
            looks like this:

            nautilus:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ insgesamt 24
            lrwxrwxrwx 1

            ceph ceph 93 29. Sep 12:21 block ->

            /dev/ceph-a6d78a29-637f-494b-a839-76251fcff67e/osd-block-39340a48-5

            4b

            3-4689-9896-f54d005c535d

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 ceph_fsid

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 fsid

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 55 29. Sep 12:21 keyring

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph  6 29. Sep 12:21 ready

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph 10 29. Sep 12:21 type

            -rw------- 1 ceph ceph  2 29. Sep 12:21 whoami

            But even if I create the symlink to the osd directory it fails

            because I only have ceph-volume within the containers
            where the

            symlink is not visible to cephadm.

            ses7-host1:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 lrwxrwxrwx 1
            root root

            57 29. Sep 15:08 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 ->

            /var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/

            ses7-host1:~ # cephadm ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1

            --osd-fsid

            b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target

            ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4

            83

            d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 Inferring fsid

            152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2

            [...]

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Migrate to existing, Source:

            ['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db'] Target:

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr  stdout: inferring bluefs devices from

            bluestore path

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr  stderr: can't migrate

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db, not a valid bluefs volume

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Failed to migrate device,
            error code:1

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Undoing lv tag set

            /usr/bin/podman: stderr Failed to migrate to :

            ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4

            83

            d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4

            Traceback (most recent call last):

               File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 6225, in <module>

                 r = args.func()

               File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1363, in _infer_fsid

                 return func()

               File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1422, in _infer_image

                 return func()

               File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 3687, in command_ceph_volume

                 out, err, code = call_throws(c.run_cmd(),

            verbosity=CallVerbosity.VERBOSE)

               File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1101, in call_throws

                 raise RuntimeError('Failed command: %s' % '
            '.join(command))

            [...]

            I could install the package ceph-osd (where ceph-volume is
            packaged

            in) but it's not available by default (as you see this is
            a SES 7

            environment).

            I'm not sure what the design is here, it feels like the
            ceph-volume

            migrate command is not applicable to containers yet.

            Regards,

            Eugen

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            Hi Eugen,

            indeed this looks like an issue related to containerized

            deployment, "ceph-volume lvm migrate" expects osd folder to be

            under

            /var/lib/ceph/osd:

            stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1

            bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed to lock

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still

            running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable

            As a workaround you might want to try to create a symlink
            to your

            actual location before issuing the migrate command:

            /var/lib/ceph/osd ->

            /var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/

            More complicated (and more general IMO) way would be to
            run the

            migrate command from within a container deployed similarly
            (i.e.

            with all the proper subfolder mappings) to ceph-osd one. Just

            speculating - not a big expert in containers and never
            tried that

            with properly deployed production cluster...

            Thanks,

            Igor

            On 9/29/2021 10:07 AM, Eugen Block wrote:

            Hi,

            I just tried with 'ceph-volume lvm migrate' in Octopus but it

            doesn't really work. I'm not sure if I'm missing something
            here,

            but I believe it's again the already discussed containers
            issue.

            To be able to run the command for an OSD the OSD has to be

            offline, but then you don't have access to the block.db
            because

            the path is different from outside the container:

            ---snip---

            [ceph: root@host1 /]# ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1

            --osd-fsid

            b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target

            ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8

            -4

            83d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --> Migrate to existing, Source:

            ['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db']

            Target:

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block

             stdout: inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path

             stderr:

            /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b

            lu

            estore/BlueStore.cc: In function 'int

            BlueStore::_mount_for_bluefs()' thread

            7fde05b96180

            time

            2021-09-29T06:56:24.790161+0000

             stderr:

            /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b

            lu

            estore/BlueStore.cc: 6876: FAILED ceph_assert(r ==

            0)

             stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1

            bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed to lock

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still

            running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable

            # path outside

            host1:~ # ll

            /var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/

            insgesamt 60

            lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   93 29. Sep 08:43 block ->

            /dev/ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4

            lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   90 29. Sep 08:43 block.db ->

            /dev/ceph-6f1b8f49-daf2-4631-a2ef-12e9452b01ea/osd-db-69b11aa0-af

            96

            -443e-8f03-5afa5272131f

            ---snip---

            But if I shutdown the OSD I can't access the block and
            block.db

            devices. I'm not even sure how this is supposed to work with

            cephadm. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, though. Or is there a
            way to

            provide the offline block.db path to 'ceph-volume lvm
            migrate'?

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            You may need to use `ceph-volume lvm migrate’ [1] instead of

            ceph-bluestore-tool. If I recall correctly, this is a
            pretty new

            feature, I’m not sure whether it is available to your version.

            If you use ceph-bluestore-tool, then you need to modify
            the LVM

            tags manually. Please refer to the previous threads, e.g. [2]

            and some more.

            [1]:
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            <https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/man/8/ceph-volume/#migrate>

            [2]:

            https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@xxxxxxx/thread/
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            主题:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal
            from an

            external device (nvme)

            Gave a try of it, so all the 3 osds finally failed :/ Not sure

            what went wrong.

            Do the normal maintenance things, ceph osd set noout, ceph osd

            set norebalance, stop the osd and run this command:

            ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate --dev-target

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/block --devs-source

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db --path

            /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/

            Output:

            device removed:1 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db device
            added:

            1

            /dev/dm-2

            When tried to start I got this in the log:

            osd.8 0 OSD:init: unable to mount object store

             ** ERROR: osd init failed: (13) Permission denied set uid:gid

            to

            167:167 (ceph:ceph) ceph version 15.2.13

            (c44bc49e7a57a87d84dfff2a077a2058aa2172e2)

            octopus (stable), process ceph-osd, pid 1512261

            pidfile_write: ignore empty --pid-file

            From the another 2 osds the block.db removed and I can
            start it back.

            I've zapped the db drive just to be removed from the device

            completely and after machine restart none of these 2 osds came

            back, I guess missing the db device.

            Is there any steps missing?

            1.Noout+norebalance

            2. Stop osd

            3. migrate with the above command the block.db to the block.

            4. do on the other osds which is sharing the same db
            device that

            want to remove.

            5. zap the db device

            6. start back the osds.

            Istvan Szabo

            Senior Infrastructure Engineer

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            Subject:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal

            from an external device (nvme)

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            Hi,

            I think 'ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate' could be of

            use here. I haven't tried it in a production environment yet,

            only in virtual labs.

            Regards,

            Eugen

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            Hi,

            Seems like in our config the nvme device  as a wal+db in front

            of the ssd slowing down the ssds osds.

            I'd like to avoid to rebuild all the osd-, is there a way

            somehow migrate to the "slower device" the wal+db without
            reinstall?

            Ty

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