Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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Hi Igor,

I’ve attached here, thank you in advance.

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Subject: Re:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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No,

that's just backtrace of the crash - I'd like to see the full OSD log from the process startup till the crash instead...
On 10/8/2021 4:02 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hi Igor,

Here is a bluestore tool fsck output:
https://justpaste.it/7igrb

Is this that you are looking for?

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Subject: Re:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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Not sure dmcrypt is a culprit here.

Could you please set debug-bluefs to 20 and collect an OSD startup log.


On 10/5/2021 4:43 PM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hmm, tried another one which hasn’t been spilledover disk, still coredumped ☹
Is there any special thing that we need to do before we migrate db next to the block? Our osds are using dmcrypt, is it an issue?

{
    "backtrace": [
        "(()+0x12b20) [0x7f310aa49b20]",
        "(gsignal()+0x10f) [0x7f31096aa37f]",
        "(abort()+0x127) [0x7f3109694db5]",
        "(()+0x9009b) [0x7f310a06209b]",
        "(()+0x9653c) [0x7f310a06853c]",
        "(()+0x95559) [0x7f310a067559]",
        "(__gxx_personality_v0()+0x2a8) [0x7f310a067ed8]",
        "(()+0x10b03) [0x7f3109a48b03]",
        "(_Unwind_RaiseException()+0x2b1) [0x7f3109a49071]",
        "(__cxa_throw()+0x3b) [0x7f310a0687eb]",
        "(()+0x19fa4) [0x7f310b7b6fa4]",
        "(tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom(unsigned long)+0x146) [0x7f310b7d8c96]",
        "(()+0x10d0f8e) [0x55ffa520df8e]",
        "(rocksdb::Version::~Version()+0x104) [0x55ffa521d174]",
        "(rocksdb::Version::Unref()+0x21) [0x55ffa521d221]",
        "(rocksdb::ColumnFamilyData::~ColumnFamilyData()+0x5a) [0x55ffa52efcca]",
        "(rocksdb::ColumnFamilySet::~ColumnFamilySet()+0x88) [0x55ffa52f0568]",
        "(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x5e) [0x55ffa520e01e]",
        "(rocksdb::VersionSet::~VersionSet()+0x11) [0x55ffa520e261]",
        "(rocksdb::DBImpl::CloseHelper()+0x616) [0x55ffa5155ed6]",
        "(rocksdb::DBImpl::~DBImpl()+0x83b) [0x55ffa515c35b]",
        "(rocksdb::DBImplReadOnly::~DBImplReadOnly()+0x11) [0x55ffa51a3bc1]",
        "(rocksdb::DB::OpenForReadOnly(rocksdb::DBOptions const&, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor, std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor> > const&, std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*, std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*> >*, rocksdb::DB**, bool)+0x1089) [0x55ffa51a57e9]",
        "(RocksDBStore::do_open(std::ostream&, bool, bool, std::vector<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily, std::allocator<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily> > const*)+0x14ca) [0x55ffa51285ca]",
        "(BlueStore::_open_db(bool, bool, bool)+0x1314) [0x55ffa4bc27e4]",
        "(BlueStore::_open_db_and_around(bool)+0x4c) [0x55ffa4bd4c5c]",
        "(BlueStore::_mount(bool, bool)+0x847) [0x55ffa4c2e047]",
        "(OSD::init()+0x380) [0x55ffa4753a70]",
        "(main()+0x47f1) [0x55ffa46a6901]",
        "(__libc_start_main()+0xf3) [0x7f3109696493]",
        "(_start()+0x2e) [0x55ffa46d4e3e]"
    ],
    "ceph_version": "15.2.14",
    "crash_id": "2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z_b6818598-4960-4ed6-942a-d4a7ff37a758",
    "entity_name": "osd.48",
    "os_id": "centos",
    "os_name": "CentOS Linux",
    "os_version": "8",
    "os_version_id": "8",
    "process_name": "ceph-osd",
    "stack_sig": "6a43b6c219adac393b239fbea4a53ff87c4185bcd213724f0d721b452b81ddbf",
    "timestamp": "2021-10-05T13:31:28.513463Z",
    "utsname_hostname": "server-2s07",
    "utsname_machine": "x86_64",
    "utsname_release": "4.18.0-305.19.1.el8_4.x86_64",
    "utsname_sysname": "Linux",
    "utsname_version": "#1 SMP Wed Sep 15 15:39:39 UTC 2021"
}
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Subject: 回复:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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The stack trace (tcmalloc::allocate_full_cpp_throw_oom) seems indicating you don’t have enough memory.

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主题:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

Seems like it cannot start anymore once migrated ☹

https://justpaste.it/5hkot

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Subject: Re:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

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Hi Istvan,

yeah both db and wal to slow migration are supported. And spillover state isn't a show stopper for that.


On 10/2/2021 1:16 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Dear Igor,

Is the ceph-volume lvm migrate command smart enough in octopus 15.2.14 to be able to remove the db (included the wall) from the nvme even if it is spilledover? I can’t compact back to normal many disk to not show spillover warning.

I think Christian has the truth of the issue, my
Nvme with 30k rand write iops backing 3x ssd with 67k rand write iops each …

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On 2021. Oct 1., at 11:47, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
3x SSD osd /nvme

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And how many OSDs are per single NVMe do you have?

On 10/1/2021 9:55 AM, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:

I have my dashboards and I can see that the db nvmes are always running on 100% utilization (you can monitor with iostat -x 1)  and it generates all the time iowaits which is between 1-3.

I’m using nvme in front of the ssds.

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Subject: Re:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from
an external device (nvme)

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Hi,

I'm curious - how did you tell that the separate WAL+DB volume was slowing things down? I assume you did some benchmarking - is there any chance you'd be willing to share results? (Or anybody else that's been in a similar situation).

What sorts of devices are you using for the WAL+DB, versus the data disks?

We're using NAND SSDs, with Optanes for the WAL+DB, and on some
systems I am seeing slowly than expected behaviour - need to dive
deeper into it

In my case, I was running with 4 or 2 OSDs per Optane volume:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ceph/comments/k2lef1/how_many_waldb_partition
s_can_you_run_per_optane/

but I couldn't seem to get the results I'd expected - so curious what people are seeing in the real world - and of course, we might need to follow the steps here to remove them as well.

Thanks,
Victor

On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 16:10, Eugen Block <eblock@xxxxxx<mailto:eblock@xxxxxx<mailto:eblock@xxxxxx%3cmailto:eblock@xxxxxx>><mailto:eblock@xxxxxx><mailto:eblock@xxxxxx>> wrote:
Yes, I believe for you it should work without containers although I
haven't tried the migrate command in a non-containerized cluster yet.
But I believe this is a general issue for containerized clusters with
regards to maintenance. I haven't checked yet if there are existing
tracker issues for this, but maybe this should be worth creating one?


Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx>>:

Actually I don't have containerized deployment, my is normal one. So
it should work the lvm migrate.

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Subject: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external
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That's what I did and pasted the results in my previous comments.


Zitat von 胡 玮文 <huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:

Yes. And “cephadm shell” command does not depend on the running
daemon, it will start a new container. So I think it is perfectly
fine to stop the OSD first then run the “cephadm shell” command, and
run ceph-volume in the new shell.

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主题: Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an external device
(nvme)

The OSD has to be stopped in order to migrate DB/WAL, it can't be
done live. ceph-volume requires a lock on the device.


Zitat von 胡 玮文 <huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:

I’ve not tried it, but how about:

cephadm shell -n osd.0

then run “ceph-volume” commands in the newly opened shell. The
directory structure seems fine.

$ sudo cephadm shell -n osd.0
Inferring fsid e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864
Inferring config
/var/lib/ceph/e88d509a-f6fc-11ea-b25d-a0423f3ac864/osd.0/config
Using recent ceph image
cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d<mailto:cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d<mailto:cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d%3cmailto:cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3f9fa43534d>>
37<http://cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3
f9fa43534d37<http://cr.example.com/infra/ceph@sha256:8a0f6f285edcd6488e2c91d3%0bf9fa43534d37>>
d7a9b37db1e0ff6691aae6466530 root@host0:/# ll
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ total 68
drwx------ 2 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 20 04:15 ./
drwxr-x--- 1 ceph ceph 4096 Sep 29 13:32 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   24 Sep 20 04:15 block -> /dev/ceph-hdd/osd.0.data
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   23 Sep 20 04:15 block.db ->
/dev/ubuntu-vg/osd.0.db
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   37 Sep 20 04:15 ceph_fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph  387 Jun 21 13:24 config
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   37 Sep 20 04:15 fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   55 Sep 20 04:15 keyring
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph    6 Sep 20 04:15 ready
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph    3 Apr  2 01:46 require_osd_release
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   10 Sep 20 04:15 type
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   38 Sep 17 14:26 unit.configured
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   48 Nov  9  2020 unit.created
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph   35 Sep 17 14:26 unit.image
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph  306 Sep 17 14:26 unit.meta
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 1317 Sep 17 14:26 unit.poststop
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 3021 Sep 17 14:26 unit.run
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph  142 Sep 17 14:26 unit.stop
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph    2 Sep 20 04:15 whoami

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主题: Re:  Re: 回复: [ceph-users] Re: is it possible to
remove the db+wal from an external device (nvme)

Hi Igor,

thanks for your input. I haven't done this in a prod env yet
either, still playing around in a virtual lab env.
I tried the symlink suggestion but it's not that easy, because it
looks different underneath the ceph directory than ceph-volume
expects it. These are the services underneath:

ses7-host1:~ # ll
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/
insgesamt 48
drwx------ 3 root       root   4096 16. Sep 16:11 alertmanager.ses7-host1
drwx------ 3 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 09:03 crash
drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:39 crash.ses7-host1
drwx------ 4 messagebus lp     4096 16. Sep 16:23 grafana.ses7-host1
drw-rw---- 2 root       root   4096 24. Aug 10:00 home
drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:37 mgr.ses7-host1.wmgyit
drwx------ 3 ceph       ceph   4096 16. Sep 16:37 mon.ses7-host1
drwx------ 2 nobody     nobody 4096 16. Sep 16:37 node-exporter.ses7-host1
drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 08:43 osd.0
drwx------ 2 ceph       ceph   4096 29. Sep 15:11 osd.1
drwx------ 4 root       root   4096 16. Sep 16:12 prometheus.ses7-host1


While the directory in a non-containerized deployment looks like this:

nautilus:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/ insgesamt 24 lrwxrwxrwx 1
ceph ceph 93 29. Sep 12:21 block ->
/dev/ceph-a6d78a29-637f-494b-a839-76251fcff67e/osd-block-39340a48-5
4b
3-4689-9896-f54d005c535d
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 ceph_fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 37 29. Sep 12:21 fsid
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 55 29. Sep 12:21 keyring
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph  6 29. Sep 12:21 ready
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph 10 29. Sep 12:21 type
-rw------- 1 ceph ceph  2 29. Sep 12:21 whoami


But even if I create the symlink to the osd directory it fails
because I only have ceph-volume within the containers where the
symlink is not visible to cephadm.


ses7-host1:~ # ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
57 29. Sep 15:08 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 ->
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/

ses7-host1:~ # cephadm ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1
--osd-fsid
b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4
83
d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 Inferring fsid
152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2
[...]
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Migrate to existing, Source:
['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db'] Target:
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block
/usr/bin/podman: stderr  stdout: inferring bluefs devices from
bluestore path
/usr/bin/podman: stderr  stderr: can't migrate
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db, not a valid bluefs volume
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Failed to migrate device, error code:1
/usr/bin/podman: stderr --> Undoing lv tag set
/usr/bin/podman: stderr Failed to migrate to :
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-4
83
d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 6225, in <module>
     r = args.func()
   File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1363, in _infer_fsid
     return func()
   File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1422, in _infer_image
     return func()
   File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 3687, in command_ceph_volume
     out, err, code = call_throws(c.run_cmd(),
verbosity=CallVerbosity.VERBOSE)
   File "/usr/sbin/cephadm", line 1101, in call_throws
     raise RuntimeError('Failed command: %s' % ' '.join(command))
[...]


I could install the package ceph-osd (where ceph-volume is packaged
in) but it's not available by default (as you see this is a SES 7
environment).

I'm not sure what the design is here, it feels like the ceph-volume
migrate command is not applicable to containers yet.

Regards,
Eugen


Zitat von Igor Fedotov <ifedotov@xxxxxxx<mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx<mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx%3cmailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx>><mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx><mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx>>:

Hi Eugen,

indeed this looks like an issue related to containerized
deployment, "ceph-volume lvm migrate" expects osd folder to be
under
/var/lib/ceph/osd:

stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1
bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed to lock
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still
running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable
As a workaround you might want to try to create a symlink to your
actual location before issuing the migrate command:
/var/lib/ceph/osd ->
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/

More complicated (and more general IMO) way would be to run the
migrate command from within a container deployed similarly (i.e.
with all the proper subfolder mappings) to ceph-osd one. Just
speculating - not a big expert in containers and never tried that
with properly deployed production cluster...


Thanks,

Igor

On 9/29/2021 10:07 AM, Eugen Block wrote:
Hi,

I just tried with 'ceph-volume lvm migrate' in Octopus but it
doesn't really work. I'm not sure if I'm missing something here,
but I believe it's again the already discussed containers issue.
To be able to run the command for an OSD the OSD has to be
offline, but then you don't have access to the block.db because
the path is different from outside the container:

---snip---
[ceph: root@host1 /]# ceph-volume lvm migrate --osd-id 1
--osd-fsid
b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --from db --target
ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8
-4
83d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4 --> Migrate to existing, Source:
['--devs-source', '/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block.db']
Target:
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block
 stdout: inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path
 stderr:
/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b
lu
estore/BlueStore.cc: In function 'int
BlueStore::_mount_for_bluefs()' thread
7fde05b96180
time
2021-09-29T06:56:24.790161+0000
 stderr:
/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/ceph-15.2.14-84-gb6e5642e260/src/os/b
lu
estore/BlueStore.cc: 6876: FAILED ceph_assert(r ==
0)
 stderr: 2021-09-29T06:56:24.787+0000 7fde05b96180 -1
bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed to lock
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still
running?)(11) Resource temporarily unavailable


# path outside
host1:~ # ll
/var/lib/ceph/152fd738-01bc-11ec-a7fd-fa163e672db2/osd.1/
insgesamt 60
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   93 29. Sep 08:43 block ->
/dev/ceph-b1ddff4b-95e8-4b91-b451-a3ea35d16ec0/osd-block-b4c772aa-07f8-483d-ae58-0ab97b8d0cc4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ceph ceph   90 29. Sep 08:43 block.db ->
/dev/ceph-6f1b8f49-daf2-4631-a2ef-12e9452b01ea/osd-db-69b11aa0-af
96
-443e-8f03-5afa5272131f
---snip---


But if I shutdown the OSD I can't access the block and block.db
devices. I'm not even sure how this is supposed to work with
cephadm. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, though. Or is there a way to
provide the offline block.db path to 'ceph-volume lvm migrate'?



Zitat von 胡 玮文 <huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:huww98@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:

You may need to use `ceph-volume lvm migrate’ [1] instead of
ceph-bluestore-tool. If I recall correctly, this is a pretty new
feature, I’m not sure whether it is available to your version.

If you use ceph-bluestore-tool, then you need to modify the LVM
tags manually. Please refer to the previous threads, e.g. [2]
and some more.

[1]: https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/man/8/ceph-volume/#migrate
[2]:
https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@xxxxxxx/thread/
VX
23NQ66P3PPEX36T3PYYMHPLBSFLMYA/#JLNDFGXR4ZLY27DHD3RJTTZEDHRZJO4Q

发件人: Szabo, Istvan
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发送时间: 2021年9月28日 18:20
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主题:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal from an
external device (nvme)

Gave a try of it, so all the 3 osds finally failed :/ Not sure
what went wrong.

Do the normal maintenance things, ceph osd set noout, ceph osd
set norebalance, stop the osd and run this command:
ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate --dev-target
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/block --devs-source
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db --path
/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/
Output:
device removed:1 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-8/block.db device added:
1
/dev/dm-2

When tried to start I got this in the log:
osd.8 0 OSD:init: unable to mount object store
 ** ERROR: osd init failed: (13) Permission denied set uid:gid
to
167:167 (ceph:ceph) ceph version 15.2.13
(c44bc49e7a57a87d84dfff2a077a2058aa2172e2)
octopus (stable), process ceph-osd, pid 1512261
pidfile_write: ignore empty --pid-file

>From the another 2 osds the block.db removed and I can start it back.
I've zapped the db drive just to be removed from the device
completely and after machine restart none of these 2 osds came
back, I guess missing the db device.

Is there any steps missing?
1.Noout+norebalance
2. Stop osd
3. migrate with the above command the block.db to the block.
4. do on the other osds which is sharing the same db device that
want to remove.
5. zap the db device
6. start back the osds.

Istvan Szabo
Senior Infrastructure Engineer
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Subject:  Re: is it possible to remove the db+wal
from an external device (nvme)

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Hi,

I think 'ceph-bluestore-tool bluefs-bdev-migrate' could be of
use here. I haven't tried it in a production environment yet,
only in virtual labs.

Regards,
Eugen


Zitat von "Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)" <Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:Istvan.Szabo@xxxxxxxxx>>:

Hi,

Seems like in our config the nvme device  as a wal+db in front
of the ssd slowing down the ssds osds.
I'd like to avoid to rebuild all the osd-, is there a way
somehow migrate to the "slower device" the wal+db without reinstall?

Ty
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