Re: Balancer vs. Autoscaler

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If you look at the current pg_num in that pool ls detail command that
Dan mentioned you can set the pool pg_num to what that value currently
is, which will effectively pause the pg changes. I did this recently
when decreasing the number of pg's in a pool, which took several weeks
to complete. This let me get some other maintenance done before
setting the pg_num back to the target num again.
This works well for reduction, but I'm not sure if it works well for
increase as I think the pg_num may reach the target much faster and
then just the pgp_num changes till they match.

Rich

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 23:06, Dan van der Ster <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> To get an idea how much work is left, take a look at `ceph osd pool ls
> detail`. There should be pg_num_target... The osds will merge or split PGs
> until pg_num matches that value.
>
> .. Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 11:04 Jan-Philipp Litza, <jpl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I had the autoscale_mode set to "on" and the autoscaler went to work and
> > started adjusting the number of PGs in that pool. Since this implies a
> > huge shift in data, the reweights that the balancer had carefully
> > adjusted (in crush-compat mode) are now rubbish, and more and more OSDs
> > become nearful (we sadly have very different sized OSDs).
> >
> > Now apparently both manager modules, balancer and pg_autoscaler, have
> > the same threshold for operation, namely target_max_misplaced_ratio. So
> > the balancer won't become active as long as the pg_autoscaler is still
> > adjusting the number of PGs.
> >
> > I already set the autoscale_mode to "warn" on all pools, but apparently
> > the autoscaler is determined to finish what it started.
> >
> > Is there any way to pause the autoscaler so the balancer has a chance of
> > fixing the reweights? Because even in manual mode (ceph balancer
> > optimize), the balancer won't compute a plan when the misplaced ratio is
> > higher than target_max_misplaced_ratio.
> >
> > I know about "ceph osd reweight-*", but they adjust the reweights
> > (visible in "ceph osd tree"), whereas the balancer adjusts the "compat
> > weight-set", which I don't know how to convert back to the old-style
> > reweights.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jan-Philipp
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