Re: MDS cache tunning

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I've seen your other thread. Using 78GB of RAM when the memory limit
is set to 64GB is not highly unusual, and doesn't necessarily indicate
any problem.
It *would* be a problem if the MDS memory grows uncontrollably, however.

Otherwise, check those new defaults for caps recall -- they were
released around 14.2.19 IIRC.

-- Dan

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 12:46 PM Andres Rojas Guerrero <a.rojas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answer. Yes, during these last weeks I have had memory
> consumption problems in the MDS nodes that led, at least it seemed to
> me, to performance problems in CephFS. I have been varying, for example:
>
> mds_cache_memory_limit
> mds_min_caps_per_client
> mds_health_cache_threshold
> mds_max_caps_per_client
> mds_cache_reservation
>
> But without much knowledge and with a trial and error procedure, i.e.
> observing how CephFS behaved when changing one of the parameters.
> Although I have achieved improvement the procedure does not convince me
> at all and that's why I was asking if there was something  more reliable ...
>
>
>
>
> El 26/5/21 a las 12:15, Dan van der Ster escribió:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The mds_cache_memory_limit should be set to something relative to the
> > RAM size of the MDS -- maybe 50% is a good rule of thumb, because
> > there are a few cases where the RSS can exceed this limit. Your
> > experience will help guide what size you need (metadata pool IO
> > activity will be really high if the MDS cache is too small)
> >
> > Otherwise, in recent releases of N/O/P the defaults for those settings
> > you mentioned are quite good [1]; I would be surprised if they need
> > further tuning for 99% of users.
> > Is there any reason you want to start adjusting these params?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/38574
> >
> > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:58 AM Andres Rojas Guerrero <a.rojas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all, I have observed that the MDS Cache Configuration has 18 parameters:
> >>
> >> mds_cache_memory_limit
> >> mds_cache_reservation
> >> mds_health_cache_threshold
> >> mds_cache_trim_threshold
> >> mds_cache_trim_decay_rate
> >> mds_recall_max_caps
> >> mds_recall_max_decay_threshold
> >> mds_recall_max_decay_rate
> >> mds_recall_global_max_decay_threshold
> >> mds_recall_warning_threshold
> >> mds_recall_warning_decay_rate
> >> mds_session_cap_acquisition_throttle
> >> mds_session_cap_acquisition_decay_rate
> >> mds_session_max_caps_throttle_ratio
> >> mds_cap_acquisition_throttle_retry_request_timeout
> >> mds_session_cache_liveness_magnitude
> >> mds_session_cache_liveness_decay_rate
> >> mds_max_caps_per_client
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I find the Ceph documentation in this section a bit cryptic and I have
> >> tried to find some resources that talk about how to tune these
> >> parameters, but without success.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have experience in adjusting these parameters according to
> >> the characteristics of the Ceph cluster itself, the hardware and the use
> >> of MDS?
> >>
> >> Regards!
> >> --
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