Re: LVM vs. direct disk acess

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I think this would be a great place in the ML to look.
https://ceph-users.ceph.narkive.com/AthYx879/ceph-volume-migration-and-disk-partition-support <https://ceph-users.ceph.narkive.com/AthYx879/ceph-volume-migration-and-disk-partition-support>

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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Marc <Marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I have asked exactly the same question 1 year ago or so. Sage told me to show evidence of a significant impact, because they did not measured one.
> 
> If I remember correctly is the idea behind this that not all storage devices are available as /dev/sdX as normal disk and lvm sort of solves this problem. (Maybe related to some nvme devices)
> 
> Maybe you can search for it in the mailing list ;)
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: 19 March 2021 20:12
>> To: ceph-users <ceph-users@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject:  LVM vs. direct disk acess
>> 
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> 
>> I've seen the shift in ceph to focus more on LVM than on plain (direct)
>> access to disks. I was wondering what the motivation is for that.
>> 
>> From my point of view OSD disk layouts never change (they are re-added
>> if they do), so the dynamic approach of LVM is probably not the
>> motivation.
>> 
>> LVM also adds another layer of indirection and it seems it would be of
>> disadvantage performance wise as well as added complexity for
>> management. The former is probably only a minor degradation, the latter
>> is something I see more as obstacle for maintenance.
>> 
>> At ungleich we are using a custom script [0] to format a disk with two
>> partitions, one for the metadata, one for the rest, which seems to be
>> more simple.
>> 
>> I assume there are good reasons not to do as we do, but I was wondering
>> what the practical reasons actually are.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Nico
>> 
>> [0] https://code.ungleich.ch/ungleich-public/ungleich-tools/-
>> /blob/master/ceph/ceph-osd-create-start
>> 
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