Unfortunately currently available Ceph releases lack any means to
monitor KV data removal. The only way is to set debug_bluestore to 20
(for a short period of time, e.g. 1 min) and inspect OSD log for
_remove/_do_remove/_omap_clear calls. Plenty of them within the
inspected period means ongoing removals.
A weak proof of the hypothesis would be having non-zero "numpg_removing"
performance counter...
On 10/6/2020 2:06 PM, Kristof Coucke wrote:
Is there a way that I can check if this process is causing performance
issues?
Can I check somehow if this process is causing the issue?
Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 13:05 schreef Igor Fedotov <ifedotov@xxxxxxx
<mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx>>:
On 10/6/2020 1:04 PM, Kristof Coucke wrote:
Another strange thing is going on:
No client software is using the system any longer, so we would
expect that all IOs are related to the recovery (fixing of the
degraded PG).
However, the disks that are reaching high IO are not a member of
the PGs that are being fixed.
So, something is heavily using the disk, but I can't find the
process immediately. I've read something that there can be old
client processes that keep on connecting to an OSD for retrieving
data for a specific PG while that PG is no longer available on
that disk.
I bet it's rather PG removal happening in background....
Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 11:41 schreef Kristof Coucke
<kristof.coucke@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kristof.coucke@xxxxxxxxx>>:
Yes, some disks are spiking near 100%... The delay I see with
the iostat (r_await) seems to be synchronised with the delays
between queued_for_pg and reached_pg events.
The NVMe disks are not spiking, just the spinner disks.
I know the rocksdb is only partial on the NVMe. The
read-ahead is also 128kb (os level) (for spinner disks). As
we are dealing with smaller files, this might also lead to a
decrease of the performance.
I'm still investigating, but I'm wondering if the system is
also reading from disk for finding the KV pairs.
Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 11:23 schreef Igor Fedotov
<ifedotov@xxxxxxx <mailto:ifedotov@xxxxxxx>>:
Hi Kristof,
are you seeing high (around 100%) OSDs' disks (main or DB
ones)
utilization along with slow ops?
Thanks,
Igor
On 10/6/2020 11:09 AM, Kristof Coucke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We have a Ceph cluster which has been expanded from 10
to 16 nodes.
> Each node has between 14 and 16 OSDs of which 2 are
NVMe disks.
> Most disks (except NVMe's) are 16TB large.
>
> The expansion of 16 nodes went ok, but we've configured
the system to
> prevent auto balance towards the new disks (weight was
set to 0) so we
> could control the expansion.
>
> We started adding 6 disks last week (1 disk on each new
node) which didn't
> give a lot of issues.
> When the Ceph status indicated the PG degraded was
almost finished, we've
> added 2 disks on each node again.
>
> All seemed to go fine, till yesterday morning... IOs
towards the system
> were slowing down.
>
> Diving onto the nodes we could see that the OSD daemons
are consuming the
> CPU power, resulting in average CPU loads going near 10
(!).
>
> The RGWs nor monitors nor other involved servers are
having CPU issues
> (except for the management server which is fighting
with Prometheus), so
> it's latency seems to be related to the ODS hosts.
> All of the hosts are interconnected with 25Gbit
connections, no bottlenecks
> are reached on the network either.
>
> Important piece of information: We are using erasure
coding (6/3), and we
> do have a lot of small files...
> The current health detail indicates degraded health
redundancy where
> 1192911/103387889228 objects are degraded. (1 pg
degraded, 1 pg undersized).
>
> Diving into the historic ops of an OSD we can see that
the main latency is
> found between the event "queued_for_pg" and
"reached_pg". (Averaging +/- 3
> secs)
>
> As the system load is quite high I assume the systems
are busy
> recalculating the code chunks for using the new disks
we've added (though
> not sure), but I was wondering how I can better fine
tune the system or
> pinpoint the exact bottle neck.
> Latency towards the disks doesn't seem an issue at
first sight...
>
> We are running Ceph 14.2.11
>
> Who can give me some thoughts on how I can better
pinpoint the bottle neck?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kristof
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