I am interested. I am always setting mtu to 9000. To be honest I cannot imagine there is no optimization since you have less interrupt requests, and you are able x times as much data. Every time there something written about optimizing the first thing mention is changing to the mtu 9000. Because it is quick and easy win. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hall [mailto:kdhall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: maandag 25 mei 2020 5:11 To: Martin Verges; Suresh Rama Cc: Amudhan P; Khodayar Doustar; ceph-users Subject: Re: [External Email] Re: Ceph Nautius not working after setting MTU 9000 All, Regarding Martin's observations about Jumbo Frames.... I have recently been gathering some notes from various internet sources regarding Linux network performance, and Linux performance in general, to be applied to a Ceph cluster I manage but also to the rest of the Linux server farm I'm responsible for. In short, enabling Jumbo Frames without also tuning a number of other kernel and NIC attributes will not provide the performance increases we'd like to see. I have not yet had a chance to go through the rest of the testing I'd like to do, but I can confirm (via iperf3) that only enabling Jumbo Frames didn't make a significant difference. Some of the other attributes I'm referring to are incoming and outgoing buffer sizes at the NIC, IP, and TCP levels, interrupt coalescing, NIC offload functions that should or shouldn't be turned on, packet queuing disciplines (tc), the best choice of TCP slow-start algorithms, and other TCP features and attributes. The most off-beat item I saw was something about adding IPTABLES rules to bypass CONNTRACK table lookups. In order to do anything meaningful to assess the effect of all of these settings I'd like to figure out how to set them all via Ansible - so more to learn before I can give opinions. --> If anybody has added this type of configuration to Ceph Ansible, I'd be glad for some pointers. I have started to compile a document containing my notes. It's rough, but I'd be glad to share if anybody is interested. -Dave Dave Hall Binghamton University On 5/24/2020 12:29 PM, Martin Verges wrote: > Just save yourself the trouble. You won't have any real benefit from MTU > 9000. It has some smallish, but it is not worth the effort, problems, and > loss of reliability for most environments. > Try it yourself and do some benchmarks, especially with your regular > workload on the cluster (not the maximum peak performance), then drop the > MTU to default ;). > > Please if anyone has other real world benchmarks showing huge differences > in regular Ceph clusters, please feel free to post it here. > > -- > Martin Verges > Managing director > > Mobile: +49 174 9335695 > E-Mail: martin.verges@xxxxxxxx > Chat: https://t.me/MartinVerges > > croit GmbH, Freseniusstr. 31h, 81247 Munich > CEO: Martin Verges - VAT-ID: DE310638492 > Com. register: Amtsgericht Munich HRB 231263 > > Web: https://croit.io > YouTube: https://goo.gl/PGE1Bx > > > Am So., 24. Mai 2020 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Suresh Rama <sstkadu@xxxxxxxxx>: > >> Ping with 9000 MTU won't get response as I said and it should be 8972. Glad >> it is working but you should know what happened to avoid this issue later. >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2020, 3:04 AM Amudhan P <amudhan83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> No, ping with MTU size 9000 didn't work. >>> >>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:26 PM Khodayar Doustar <doustar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Does your ping work or not? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:53 AM Amudhan P <amudhan83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, I have set setting on the switch side also. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat 23 May, 2020, 6:47 PM Khodayar Doustar, <doustar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Problem should be with network. When you change MTU it should be >>> changed >>>>>> all over the network, any single hup on your network should speak and >>>>>> accept 9000 MTU packets. you can check it on your hosts with >> "ifconfig" >>>>>> command and there is also equivalent commands for other >>> network/security >>>>>> devices. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have just one node which it not correctly configured for MTU >>> 9000 >>>>>> it wouldn't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 2:30 PM sinan@xxxxxxxx <sinan@xxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>>>>>> Can the servers/nodes ping eachother using large packet sizes? I >> guess >>>>>>> not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sinan Polat >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 23 mei 2020 om 14:21 heeft Amudhan P <amudhan83@xxxxxxxxx> het >>>>>>> volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>> In OSD logs "heartbeat_check: no reply from OSD" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 5:44 PM Amudhan P <amudhan83@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have set Network switch with MTU size 9000 and also in my >> netplan >>>>>>>>> configuration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What else needs to be checked? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 3:39 PM Wido den Hollander < >> wido@xxxxxxxx >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/20 12:02 PM, Amudhan P wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am using ceph Nautilus in Ubuntu 18.04 working fine wit MTU >>> size >>>>>>> 1500 >>>>>>>>>>> (default) recently i tried to update MTU size to 9000. >>>>>>>>>>> After setting Jumbo frame running ceph -s is timing out. >>>>>>>>>> Ceph can run just fine with an MTU of 9000. But there is >> probably >>>>>>>>>> something else wrong on the network which is causing this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Check the Jumbo Frames settings on all the switches as well to >>> make >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>> they forward all the packets. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is definitely not a Ceph issue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wido >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>>> Amudhan P >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx >> > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx
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