Hi Dan, # ceph report 2>/dev/null | jq .osdmap_first_committed 1 # ceph report 2>/dev/null | jq .osdmap_last_committed 4646 seems like osdmap_first_committed doesn't change at all, restarting mons doesn't help.. I don't have any down OSD, everything seems to be healty.. BR nik On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 03:23:25PM +0100, Dan van der Ster wrote: > If untrimed osdmaps is related, then you should check: > https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/37875, particularly #note6 > > You can see what the mon thinks the valid range of osdmaps is: > > # ceph report | jq .osdmap_first_committed > 113300 > # ceph report | jq .osdmap_last_committed > 113938 > > Then the workaround to start trimming is to restart the leader. > This shrinks the range on the mon, which then starts telling the osds > to trim range. > Note that the OSDs will only trim 30 osdmaps for each new osdmap > generated -- so if you have a lot of osdmaps to trim, you need to > generate more. > > -- dan > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:02 AM Nikola Ciprich > <nikola.ciprich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > OK, > > > > so I can confirm that at least in my case, the problem is caused > > by old osd maps not being pruned for some reason, and thus not fitting > > into cache. When I increased osd map cache to 5000 the problem is gone. > > > > The question is why they're not being pruned, even though the cluster is in > > healthy state. But you can try checking: > > > > ceph daemon osd.X status to see how many maps are your OSDs storing > > and ceph daemon osd.X perf dump | grep osd_map_cache_miss > > > > to see if you're experiencing similar problem.. > > > > so I'm going to debug further.. > > > > BR > > > > nik > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 09:16:58AM +0100, Nikola Ciprich wrote: > > > Hi Paul and others, > > > > > > while digging deeper, I noticed that when the cluster gets into this > > > state, osd_map_cache_miss on OSDs starts growing rapidly.. even when > > > I increased osd map cache size to 500 (which was the default at least > > > for luminous) it behaves the same.. > > > > > > I think this could be related.. > > > > > > I'll try playing more with cache settings.. > > > > > > BR > > > > > > nik > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 03:40:04PM +0100, Paul Emmerich wrote: > > > > Encountered this one again today, I've updated the issue with new > > > > information: https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/44184 > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Emmerich > > > > > > > > Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? Contact us at https://croit.io > > > > > > > > croit GmbH > > > > Freseniusstr. 31h > > > > 81247 München > > > > www.croit.io > > > > Tel: +49 89 1896585 90 > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:21 PM Nikola Ciprich > > > > <nikola.ciprich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to report we've just hit very similar problem.. on mimic > > > > > (13.2.6). Any manipulation with OSD (ie restart) causes lot of slow > > > > > ops caused by waiting for new map. It seems those are slowed by SATA > > > > > OSDs which keep being 100% busy reading for long time until all ops are gone, > > > > > blocking OPS on unrelated NVME pools - SATA pools are completely unused now. > > > > > > > > > > is this possible that those maps are being requested from slow SATA OSDs > > > > > and it takes such a long time for some reason? why could it take so long? > > > > > the cluster is very small with very light load.. > > > > > > > > > > BR > > > > > > > > > > nik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:03:35AM +0100, Wido den Hollander wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/19/20 9:34 AM, Paul Emmerich wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:26 AM Wido den Hollander <wido@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On 2/18/20 6:54 PM, Paul Emmerich wrote: > > > > > > >>> I've also seen this problem on Nautilus with no obvious reason for the > > > > > > >>> slowness once. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Did this resolve itself? Or did you remove the pool? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've seen this twice on the same cluster, it fixed itself the first > > > > > > > time (maybe with some OSD restarts?) and the other time I removed the > > > > > > > pool after a few minutes because the OSDs were running into heartbeat > > > > > > > timeouts. There unfortunately seems to be no way to reproduce this :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's the problem. I've been trying to reproduce it, but I can't. > > > > > > It works on all my Nautilus systems except for this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you saw it, Bryan saw it, I expect others to encounter this at some > > > > > > point as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have any extensive logging as this cluster is in production and > > > > > > I can't simply crank up the logging and try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case it wasn't a new pool that caused problems but a very old one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> In my case it was a rather old cluster that was upgraded all the way > > > > > > >>> from firefly > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> This cluster has also been installed with Firefly. It was installed in > > > > > > >> 2015, so a while ago. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Wido > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > Ing. Nikola CIPRICH > > > > > LinuxBox.cz, s.r.o. > > > > > 28.rijna 168, 709 00 Ostrava > > > > > > > > > > tel.: +420 591 166 214 > > > > > fax: +420 596 621 273 > > > > > mobil: +420 777 093 799 > > > > > www.linuxbox.cz > > > > > > > > > > mobil servis: +420 737 238 656 > > > > > email servis: servis@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------- > > > Ing. 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