Re: Cannot start virtual machines KVM / LXC

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Hi,

currently ceph -s is not reporting any unknown PGs.
The following flags are set: nobackfill, norebalance, norecover
There are no PGs in stuck peering either.
And there's very little traffic on the ceph network.

This is the output of today:
root@ld3955:~# ceph -s
  cluster:
    id:     6b1b5117-6e08-4843-93d6-2da3cf8a6bae
    health: HEALTH_ERR
            1 filesystem is degraded
            1 filesystem has a failed mds daemon
            1 filesystem is offline
            insufficient standby MDS daemons available
            nobackfill,norebalance,norecover flag(s) set
            83 nearfull osd(s)
            1 pool(s) nearfull
            Degraded data redundancy: 360047/153249771 objects degraded
(0.235%), 78 pgs degraded, 81 pgs undersized
            Degraded data redundancy (low space): 265 pgs backfill_toofull
            3 pools have too many placement groups

  services:
    mon: 3 daemons, quorum ld5505,ld5506,ld5507 (age 109m)
    mgr: ld5505(active, since 2d), standbys: ld5506, ld5507
    mds: pve_cephfs:0/1, 1 failed
    osd: 368 osds: 368 up, 367 in; 398 remapped pgs
         flags nobackfill,norebalance,norecover

  data:
    pools:   5 pools, 8868 pgs
    objects: 51.08M objects, 195 TiB
    usage:   590 TiB used, 562 TiB / 1.1 PiB avail
    pgs:     360047/153249771 objects degraded (0.235%)
             1998603/153249771 objects misplaced (1.304%)
             8469 active+clean
             124  active+remapped+backfill_toofull
             83   active+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull
             77   active+remapped+backfill_wait
             45   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_toofull
             33   active+remapped+backfilling
             13  
active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull
             11   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling
             4    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_wait
             4    active+recovery_wait+undersized+degraded+remapped
             3    active+recovering+undersized+remapped
             1    active+recovering+undersized+degraded+remapped
             1    active+recovering

  io:
    client:   5.6 KiB/s wr, 0 op/s rd, 0 op/s wr

  progress:
    Rebalancing after osd.9 marked out
      [====================..........]


2 days before the output was:
root@ld3955:~# ceph -s
  cluster:
    id:     6b1b5117-6e08-4843-93d6-2da3cf8a6bae
    health: HEALTH_ERR
            1 filesystem is degraded
            1 filesystem has a failed mds daemon
            1 filesystem is offline
            insufficient standby MDS daemons available
            nobackfill,norebalance,norecover flag(s) set
            2 backfillfull osd(s)
            86 nearfull osd(s)
            1 pool(s) backfillfull
            Reduced data availability: 75 pgs inactive, 74 pgs peering
            Degraded data redundancy: 364117/154942251 objects degraded
(0.235%), 76 pgs degraded, 76 pgs undersized
            Degraded data redundancy (low space): 309 pgs backfill_toofull
            3 pools have too many placement groups
            105 slow requests are blocked > 32 sec
            91 stuck requests are blocked > 4096 sec

  services:
    mon: 3 daemons, quorum ld5505,ld5506,ld5507 (age 9h)
    mgr: ld5505(active, since 9h), standbys: ld5506, ld5507
    mds: pve_cephfs:0/1, 1 failed
    osd: 368 osds: 368 up, 367 in; 400 remapped pgs
         flags nobackfill,norebalance,norecover

  data:
    pools:   5 pools, 8868 pgs
    objects: 51.65M objects, 197 TiB
    usage:   596 TiB used, 554 TiB / 1.1 PiB avail
    pgs:     0.011% pgs unknown
             0.834% pgs not active
             364117/154942251 objects degraded (0.235%)
             2003579/154942251 objects misplaced (1.293%)
             8395 active+clean
             209  active+remapped+backfill_toofull
             69   active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_toofull
             49   active+remapped+backfill_wait
             37   peering
             37   remapped+peering
             31   active+remapped+backfill_wait+backfill_toofull
             17   active+clean+scrubbing+deep
             14   active+clean+scrubbing
             4    active+undersized+degraded
             2    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_wait
             1    unknown
             1    active+clean+remapped
             1    active+remapped+backfilling
             1    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfilling

  io:
    client:   256 MiB/s wr, 0 op/s rd, 99 op/s wr

  progress:
    Rebalancing after osd.9 marked out
      [==............................]


As you can see there's very little progress in "Rebalancing after osd.9
marked out", the number of objects degraded dropped to 360047/153249771
and the number of objects misplaced to 1998603/153249771.

I think this is very little progress in 2 days with no activity (over
the weekend) on the cluster.



Am 21.09.2019 um 20:39 schrieb Paul Emmerich:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 6:47 PM Thomas <74cmonty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have re-created the OSDs using these disks.
>> Can I still export the affected PGs manually?
> No, the data probably cannot be recovered in this case :(
> (It might still be somewhere on the disk if it hasn't been overwritten
> yet, but it's virtually impossible to recover it: the metadata has
> almost certainly long been overwritten)
>
> But that's only for 17 PGs showing up as unknown. The ones stuck in
> peering can probably be revived but without the latest writes. Can you
> run "ceph pg X.YX query" on one of the PGs stuck in peering?
> It might tell you what's wrong and how to proceed.
>
> But even 17 PGs will probably affect almost all of your VMs/containers...
>
> Paul
>
>> Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Am 20.09.19 um 21:15 schrieb Paul Emmerich:
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:31 PM Thomas Schneider <74cmonty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I cannot get rid of
>>>>       pgs unknown
>>>> because there were 3 disks that couldn't be started.
>>>> Therefore I destroyed the relevant OSD and re-created it for the
>>>> relevant disks.
>>> and you had it configured to run with replica 3? Well, I guess the
>>> down PGs where located on these three disks that you wiped.
>>>
>>> Do you still have the disks? Use ceph-objectstore-tool to export the
>>> affected PGs manually and inject them into another OSD.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>> Then I added the 3 OSDs to crushmap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Am 20.09.2019 um 08:19 schrieb Ashley Merrick:
>>>>> Your need to fix this first.
>>>>>
>>>>>      pgs:     0.056% pgs unknown
>>>>>               0.553% pgs not active
>>>>>
>>>>> The back filling will cause slow I/O, but having pgs unknown and not
>>>>> active will cause I/O blocking which your seeing with the VM booting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems you have 4 OSD's down, if you get them back online you should be
>>>>> able to get all the PG's online.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:14:01 +0800 *Thomas <74cmonty@xxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>> wrote ----
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>      here I describe 1 of the 2 major issues I'm currently facing in my 8
>>>>>      node ceph cluster (2x MDS, 6x ODS).
>>>>>
>>>>>      The issue is that I cannot start any virtual machine KVM or container
>>>>>      LXC; the boot process just hangs after a few seconds.
>>>>>      All these KVMs and LXCs have in common that their virtual disks
>>>>>      reside
>>>>>      in the same pool: hdd
>>>>>
>>>>>      This pool hdd is relatively small compared to the largest pool:
>>>>>      hdb_backup
>>>>>      root@ld3955:~# rados df
>>>>>      POOL_NAME              USED  OBJECTS CLONES    COPIES
>>>>>      MISSING_ON_PRIMARY
>>>>>      UNFOUND DEGRADED    RD_OPS       RD    WR_OPS      WR USED COMPR
>>>>>      UNDER COMPR
>>>>>      backup                  0 B        0      0
>>>>>      0
>>>>>      0       0        0         0      0 B         0     0 B        0
>>>>>      B         0 B
>>>>>      hdb_backup          589 TiB 51262212      0
>>>>>      153786636
>>>>>      0       0   124895  12266095  4.3 TiB 247132863 463 TiB        0
>>>>>      B         0 B
>>>>>      hdd                 3.2 TiB   281884   6568
>>>>>      845652
>>>>>      0       0     1658 275277357   16 TiB 208213922  10 TiB        0
>>>>>      B         0 B
>>>>>      pve_cephfs_data     955 GiB    91832      0
>>>>>      275496
>>>>>      0       0     3038      2103 1021 MiB    102170 318 GiB        0
>>>>>      B         0 B
>>>>>      pve_cephfs_metadata 486 MiB       62      0
>>>>>      186
>>>>>      0       0        7       860  1.4 GiB     12393 166 MiB        0
>>>>>      B         0 B
>>>>>
>>>>>      total_objects    51635990
>>>>>      total_used       597 TiB
>>>>>      total_avail      522 TiB
>>>>>      total_space      1.1 PiB
>>>>>
>>>>>      This is the current health status of the ceph cluster:
>>>>>        cluster:
>>>>>          id:     6b1b5117-6e08-4843-93d6-2da3cf8a6bae
>>>>>          health: HEALTH_ERR
>>>>>                  1 filesystem is degraded
>>>>>                  1 MDSs report slow metadata IOs
>>>>>                  1 backfillfull osd(s)
>>>>>                  87 nearfull osd(s)
>>>>>                  1 pool(s) backfillfull
>>>>>                  Reduced data availability: 54 pgs inactive, 47 pgs
>>>>>      peering,
>>>>>      1 pg stale
>>>>>                  Degraded data redundancy: 129598/154907946 objects
>>>>>      degraded
>>>>>      (0.084%), 33 pgs degraded, 33 pgs undersized
>>>>>                  Degraded data redundancy (low space): 322 pgs
>>>>>      backfill_toofull
>>>>>                  1 subtrees have overcommitted pool target_size_bytes
>>>>>                  1 subtrees have overcommitted pool target_size_ratio
>>>>>                  1 pools have too many placement groups
>>>>>                  21 slow requests are blocked > 32 sec
>>>>>
>>>>>        services:
>>>>>          mon: 3 daemons, quorum ld5505,ld5506,ld5507 (age 14h)
>>>>>          mgr: ld5507(active, since 16h), standbys: ld5506, ld5505
>>>>>          mds: pve_cephfs:1/1 {0=ld3955=up:replay} 1 up:standby
>>>>>          osd: 360 osds: 356 up, 356 in; 382 remapped pgs
>>>>>
>>>>>        data:
>>>>>          pools:   5 pools, 8868 pgs
>>>>>          objects: 51.64M objects, 197 TiB
>>>>>          usage:   597 TiB used, 522 TiB / 1.1 PiB avail
>>>>>          pgs:     0.056% pgs unknown
>>>>>                   0.553% pgs not active
>>>>>                   129598/154907946 objects degraded (0.084%)
>>>>>                   2211119/154907946 objects misplaced (1.427%)
>>>>>                   8458 active+clean
>>>>>                   298  active+remapped+backfill_toofull
>>>>>                   29   remapped+peering
>>>>>                   24
>>>>>      active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_toofull
>>>>>                   22   active+remapped+backfill_wait
>>>>>                   17   peering
>>>>>                   5    unknown
>>>>>                   5    active+recovery_wait+undersized+degraded+remapped
>>>>>                   3    active+undersized+degraded+remapped+backfill_wait
>>>>>                   2    activating+remapped
>>>>>                   1    active+clean+remapped
>>>>>                   1    stale+peering
>>>>>                   1    active+remapped+backfilling
>>>>>                   1    active+recovering+undersized+remapped
>>>>>                   1    active+recovery_wait+degraded
>>>>>
>>>>>        io:
>>>>>          client:   9.2 KiB/s wr, 0 op/s rd, 1 op/s wr
>>>>>
>>>>>      I believe the cluster is busy with rebalancing pool hdb_backup.
>>>>>      I set the balance mode upmap recently after the 589TB data was
>>>>>      written.
>>>>>      root@ld3955:~# ceph balancer status
>>>>>      {
>>>>>          "active": true,
>>>>>          "plans": [],
>>>>>          "mode": "upmap"
>>>>>      }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      In order to resolve the issue with pool hdd I started some
>>>>>      investigation.
>>>>>      First step was to install drivers for the NIC provided Mellanox.
>>>>>      Then I configured some kernel parameters recommended
>>>>>      <https://community.mellanox.com/s/article/linux-sysctl-tuning> by
>>>>>      Mellanox.
>>>>>
>>>>>      However this didn't fix the issue.
>>>>>      In my opinion I must get rid of all "slow requests are blocked".
>>>>>
>>>>>      When I check the output of ceph health detail any OSD listed under
>>>>>      REQUEST_SLOW points to an OSD that belongs to pool hdd.
>>>>>      This means none of the disks belonging to pool hdb_backup is
>>>>>      showing a
>>>>>      comparable behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Then I checked the running processes on the different OSD nodes; I
>>>>>      use
>>>>>      tool "glances" here.
>>>>>      Here I can see single processes that are running for hours and
>>>>>      consuming
>>>>>      much CPU, e.g.
>>>>>      66.8   0.2   2.13G 1.17G 1192756 ceph        17h8:33 58    0 S
>>>>>      41M 2K
>>>>>      /usr/bin/ceph-osd -f --cluster ceph --id 37 --setuser ceph
>>>>>      --setgroup ceph
>>>>>      34.2   0.2   4.31G 1.20G  971267 ceph       15h38:46 58    0 S
>>>>>      14M 3K
>>>>>      /usr/bin/ceph-osd -f --cluster ceph --id 73 --setuser ceph
>>>>>      --setgroup ceph
>>>>>
>>>>>      Similar processes are running on 4 OSD nodes.
>>>>>      All processes have in common that the relevant OSD belongs to pool
>>>>>      hdd.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Furthermore glances gives me this alert:
>>>>>      CRITICAL on CPU_IOWAIT (Min:1.9 Mean:2.3 Max:2.6): ceph-osd,
>>>>>      ceph-osd,
>>>>>      ceph-osd
>>>>>
>>>>>      What can / should I do now?
>>>>>      Kill the long running processes?
>>>>>      Stop the relevant OSDs?
>>>>>
>>>>>      Please advise?
>>>>>
>>>>>      THX
>>>>>      Thomas
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