Re: Linux Meltdown (KPTI) fix and how it affects performance?

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> Ceph runs on a dedicated hardware, there is nothing there except Ceph, 
>    and the ceph daemons have already all power on ceph's data.
>    And there is no random-code execution allowed on this node.
>
>    Thus, spectre & meltdown are meaning-less for Ceph's node, and 
>    mitigations should be disabled
>    
>    Is this wrong ?

In principle, I would say yes:
This means if someone has half a foot between the door for whatever reason you will have to assume they will be able to escalate to root.
Looking at meltdown and spectre is already a good indication of creativity in gaining (more) access.
So I would not assume people are unable to ever gain access to your network or that the ceph/ssh/etc daemons have no bugs to exploit.

I would more phrase it as: 
Is the performance decrease big enough that you are willing to risk running a less secure server.

The answer to that depends on a lot of things like:
Performance impact of the patch 
Costs of extra hardware to mitigate performance impact
Impact of possible breach (e.g. GPDR fines or reputation damage can be extremely expensive)
Who/what is allowed on your network
How likely you are a hacker target
How good will you sleep knowing there is a potential hole in security :)
Etc.

Cheers,
Robert van Leeuwen


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